Need Help Defining Requirements

   / Need Help Defining Requirements #1  

nova3930

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Hello all, new member here in need of help defining requirements so I can start the shopping process.

Little background, I'm an engineer by training and have a decent background with machinery and equipment but not tractors and their use. Grew up a country boy and my grandfather was a dairy farmer so I'm not totally ignorant, just mostly so lol.

My wife and I have 16 acres that we're currently building a house on that I will need to keep up once we move in. Ground is basically flat. West property line is 1100 ft and change long and according to USGS has about 30ft of drop from North to South. Ground is very dry. I've seen it rain for a solid week and only about the top half inch is soggy, everything underneath is rock hard. Got probably about 12 inches of good topsoil followed by clay chert underneath. Ground has been farmed in some capacity or another since about 1848, most recently it's been leased for row cropping, currently with wheat.

Will have a small lawn area around the house of about 1 acre that I'll likely buy a regular residential mower for.

About 4 acres between the house and road will be in between pasture and lawn, kept short but not lawn quality, with a small fruit orchard on part of it. I'm thinking a finish mower would be useful here.

Rear eleven acres will be pasture, needing to be cut with a bushog. Thinking I may eventually run some goats and cattle in a mini-farm setup. Probably require some spraying of fence rows and such as well.

Wife has said she'd like to have a garden at some point too.

Now I have a Mustang skid steer loader, with bucket, forks, hydraulic auger and concrete bucket that my grandfather gave me before he passed away. With that setup I'm pretty sure I don't need a front end loader on the tractor.

So most of my use is cutter, finish mower, tiller and maybe a disc.

Given the above can I get some guidance on the following so I can start narrowing down by brands and models:

What HP range?
2WD or 4WD?

Depending on the answers to the above I might drift towards finding a good used tractor. Right now I'm not looking for any advice on models or brands, just what requirements the tractor must meet. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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I always recommend 4wd , you should do fine in the 25 to 30 hp range as long as you keep your equipment properly sized . I would probably stay away from a gear tranny seeing as you will be useing a tiller , alot depends on soil type . A disc can require some pulling force so 4wd would be a must with a light weight tractor . You may want a single bottom plow to turn over the soil prior to tilling , again soil type and condition . I use a plow , spring tooth harrow , and disc for my garden. I am looking into a tiller now which would elimanate the disc in my case .
 
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I always recommend 4wd , you should do fine in the 25 to 30 hp range as long as you keep your equipment properly sized . I would probably stay away from a gear tranny seeing as you will be useing a tiller , alot depends on soil type . A disc can require some pulling force so 4wd would be a must with a light weight tractor . You may want a single bottom plow to turn over the soil prior to tilling , again soil type and condition . I use a plow , spring tooth harrow , and disc for my garden. I am looking into a tiller now which would elimanate the disc in my case .

So the tiller and disc are the big drivers in this case? If they require some pull would it hurt to go bigger on the hp side?
 
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I would go with a old 2 wheel drive 8n or a massey 135 or such.
 
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The Three Point Hitch, invented by Harry Ferguson between WWI and WWII, made the modern light-weight tractor possible. The next great advance was 4-WD. You need both.

Shop for a tractor with a Category '1' Three Point Hitch for which implements, both new and used, are widely available.

Shop for a tractor with at least 12" of ground clearance.

Hydraustatic, three-range transmission is relatively easy to learn and practical for 16 acres. With max torque at low speeds and the ability to move forward at very low speed, this is the optimal transmission to use with a roto-tiller.

30 to 35 horsepower should be ample if you also have at least 2,600 pounds tractor weight.

With these specs you can pull a 5' Rotary Cutter, a 5' PTO powered tiller and a Disc Harrow with 18" or 20" diameter pans.

You probably will not need both a PTO powered tiller and a Rotary Cutter. They are both tillers.
 
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The Three Point Hitch, invented by Harry Ferguson between WWI and WWII, made the modern light-weight tractor possible. The next great advance was 4-WD. You need both.

Shop for a tractor with a Category '1' Three Point Hitch for which implements, both new and used, are widely available.

Shop for a tractor with at least 12" of ground clearance.

Hydraustatic, three-range transmission is relatively easy to learn and practical for 16 acres. With max torque at low speeds and the ability to move forward at very low speed, this is the best transmission to use with a roto-tiller.

25 to 35 horsepower should be ample if you also have at least 2,600 pounds tractor weight.

Why do you think he needs 4 wheel drive? His place has been plowed since 1848 and not probably with a 4 wheel drive tractor.
 
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Good point, Murph------.

I guess I have to make myself invisible again.

nova3930: Ample tractor weight is crucial with 2-WD; at least 2,900 pounds.

( When I was first tractoring, on a John Deere/Yanmar 750, 4-WD kept me from getting stuck on MANY ocassions. Keep 4-WD in mind, as a lower priority. I used 4-WD today, 'hogging through dense Carolina Jasmine, on level ground.)
 
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Good point, Murph------.

I guess I have to make myself invisible again.

nova3930: Ample tractor weight is crucial with 2-WD.

Jeffy------Not being a smart azz I was just wondering... I have a old Massey and not much stops it and I have a 8 speed trans.
 
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Ok you guys are kinda confirming some initial thoughts I had. I started out this process browsing used tractors and the 2wd models seemed the most affordable even in late model and I wasn't really seeing the advantage of 4wd on dry level ground.

What would be considered ample weight for say a 30hp 2wd tractor? How about a 40?
 

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