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I got a homelite/Jacobson garden tractor that i am looking to build a loader. Anyone ever do this?? Could someone help me design one. I know the tradition design of a loader but could someone help me with attachment points

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Yes, people have done it. I designed and built mine, but it is for a 4wd tractor that came OEM with one as an option. Difference is nothing on that Homelite is heavy enough to handle the extra weight.
 
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Yes, people have done it. I designed and built mine, but it is for a 4wd tractor that came OEM with one as an option. Difference is nothing on that Homelite is heavy enough to handle the extra weight.

If you had a personal look at the tractor the frame and front axle is super heavy. The frame its self is 3/16+thicker 2 in pipe. The front axle it's huge for a garden tractor. And the the tires. Yup about junk. Those will get replaced
 
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since the thing double posted, I use the second post to say this,

on a lawn tractor, I would think that one would be limited to 100 max 200 pounds of lifting capacity,

and if the bucket is not keep very close to the front of the tractor your weight distribution will make the tractor very unstable when it is said and done you will be balancing the weight of the tractor, operator, and load. will be balance over the front axel,

(the loader most likely will easily be able to lift much more but will the tractor and balance allow one to lift more,)

If you thinking of moving earth, a cubic foot is about 100 pounds, so it could take 5 or 6 loads to fill a wheel barrow, I know the pictures of the buckets are way more capacity,

this is the specs off of the cad loader 507
CADLoaderLT Model 507 TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
Loading Height 50 in. Hydraulic Pressure 700 psi
Lifting power at full height 200 lb. Number of cylinders required 2
Lifting power at partial elevation 300 lb. Weight (approx.) 300 lb.
Bucket roll-down angle at full height 40 degrees Digging depth below ground level 2 inches with bucket level
Hydraulic requirements 1 gal./min. - -

P.F. Engineering lists greater lifting power,
but when you put the load out in front, and the balance of the tractor most likely you will be the main counter weight, so you most likely will be able to lift about the same as what one weighs,

that is my two cents,

unless you have access to a lot of "free or very low cost" hydraulic cylinders and valves,

the bucket and lift, 4 cylinders you would have close to 400 in the valve 100 to 200, some kind of pump, 100, and then a tank, 50 to 100, if one uses surplus center as a part store, the hoses most likely another 200

and then the metal probably the lower cost portion of the plan, but new I would guess in the 200 to 300, for the bucket and the frame,

my guess is 700 in hydraulics on the low end, one will have close to 1000 in the project,

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I made a back hoe, I use all most 100% used iron, I thought I was doing good, then started pricing the hydraulics, I spent over 1500, and most likely closer to 2000 by the time I got all the fittings and hoses and it put together and yes it has been a good machine,

but I could have bought one on an auction that sold about the time I finished mine for less money than it took me to built it,

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seriously consider looking in a little heaver tractor and a manufactured loader, as a unit, if you have any plans for heavy work, out of it.

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one more thing, t mount your loader I would say it would take a nearly complete under frame, on that tractor you have from what I am seeing, thus if it uses a belly mower like most lawn tractors do no more mowing or a lot of work to switch between them, as adding the under frame would most likely keep the mower deck from hooking up or working
 
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I don't think i made my question understanding. I know how to build a loader and the hydraulics. But I'm lookin to do if anyone has an idea for mounting points
 
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I don't think i made my question understanding. I know how to build a loader and the hydraulics. But I'm lookin to do if anyone has an idea for mounting points

There are none. You have to make your own coming up the side in front of the seating area. Figure out how to make a sub frame that won't prevent you from attaching a mower. Then figure out how you can attach a 200lb box blade sticking 2' off the back. Then figure on new front axles and either a better steering system or power steering. Make room for a hydro pump and add a pulley and space for a filter and minimum 2 gallon tank. Gee, now you've added 600 lbs to the mower and haven't even scooped a load of sand. Better get some heavier tires too.
 
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I don't think i made my question understanding. I know how to build a loader and the hydraulics. But I'm lookin to do if anyone has an idea for mounting points

Everyone is assuming you want a loader on this little tractor for normal "loader duties". What are your plans for it? What are you going to use it for?
 
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I'm thinking using it for helping remove some horse stalls,landscaping, to clean the stalls (stalls have been left nasty for 2+ years) and garden work and leveling my driveway and fixing a bad trench fill in
 
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There are none. You have to make your own coming up the side in front of the seating area. Figure out how to make a sub frame that won't prevent you from attaching a mower. Then figure out how you can attach a 200lb box blade sticking 2' off the back. Then figure on new front axles and either a better steering system or power steering. Make room for a hydro pump and add a pulley and space for a filter and minimum 2 gallon tank. Gee, now you've added 600 lbs to the mower and haven't even scooped a load of sand. Better get some heavier tires too.

Front pto don't work and deck is rusty so that's on a debate for the deck. Going to try and tie into the hydraulic deck lift if not going to do a electric pump with everything on the back of the tractor. No box blade here. I don't even think I'm going to make a 3pt, etc... Just going to put weights with maybe the pump if needed. I don't think i will need new back tires. Already know i need new fronts. Steering is great and it's almost too easy. I don't think i will need to Upgrade that. It's not like the tractor is going to lift a 1,00 plus lb I'm just shooting for something to do stuff to help fix up my farm
 

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