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jinman · Apr 5, 2006

( RonR, I understand your concern, but in this case, I've worked as a painter & licensed painter's rigger for over 20 years specializing in municipal bldgs, churches etc. and believe me I don't plan on being careless at this point in my life. I just think a rig like this would be handy at times for some jobs. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )

I think you should do a test of your loader before you spend the time building the lift. Last summer I was on a lift on a brand new tractor and we had to have someone sitting on the tractor to constantly "touch up" the curl on the bucket to keep the lift level. Most of our compact tractors will leak down or droop pretty quickly with pressure. To test, I'd fill the bucket with material and raise it up to about 8' with the bucket close to level. Let it set and time how long it takes for the loader to droop. If it holds, your lift is a good idea. If it droops, your lift will require two people and constant attention to work.

Good luck with your project.

RonR · Apr 6, 2006

The other thing you could do is add an orifice to limit the flow of oil in the lines. That should reduce the speed at which the cylinders would go down.

Of course, the downside is that it would be SLOW as sin to lower it when you wanted to come down.

I guess you could insert a manual shut off in the lines, so that neither the curl nor loader would leak down. You still run the risk of a line rupturing (ok, it is remotely possible), but it would guard against leak down.

A manual stop on the cylinder ram would be another option. If you look at tractor shows or fairs, any FEL in the air will have a safety stop in place.

I am not recommending this, just making an observation.

ron

LBrown59 · Apr 7, 2006

LBrown59,
1*I don't know how you did it,

2* but your a better man than me!!! Thanks a lot, that is exactly what I was looking for.] 

1* I checked my home here on this board and found links to it I had filed there.
I also checked my personal e-mail filing cabinet on CompuServe and founds links there too.

LBrown59 · Apr 7, 2006

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MikePA: Please do not use the entire URL as the Link description. It makes the entire thread get very wide.
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Mike I used the shortened link method originally but it didn't work when i read the thread and clicked on the link i kept getting an error message instead of the page coming up so i edited the post and used the other method which appeared to work ok and I didn't notice the thread being extra wide when i read the thread after doing the edit.
The thread being to wide didn't show up on my computer of course I wouldn't know or see how it appeared on other folks computers.
Sorry about the wide display problem.
PS
Perhaps I should have sent Casco1 a PM instead of posing it.
Sorry my bad call

TobyH · Apr 7, 2006

Where can you get one of those gutter cleaning attachments in the last picture??? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

jinman · Apr 7, 2006

( The other thing you could do is add an orifice to limit the flow of oil in the lines. That should reduce the speed at which the cylinders would go down.

Of course, the downside is that it would be SLOW as sin to lower it when you wanted to come down.

I guess you could insert a manual shut off in the lines, so that neither the curl nor loader would leak down. You still run the risk of a line rupturing (ok, it is remotely possible), but it would guard against leak down.

A manual stop on the cylinder ram would be another option. If you look at tractor shows or fairs, any FEL in the air will have a safety stop in place.
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Ron, your solutions all work, but they aren't completely safe and I don't think the manlift I rented last year was completely safe either. There's always some risk. If I was going to do this, I'd want something like the double piloted check valves many of us have on our toplinks/sidelinks from CCM. That is rock solid and is mounted in rigid piping. If a hose bursts, the cylinder holds rock steady. You have to apply pressure to one of the hoses to overcome the pilot pressure and then the cylinder will move at normal speed.

Of course, by the time you get something built with all the safety and functionality you need, you might as well go out and buy a used manlift for about $3k to $4k and be happy. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

RonR · Apr 7, 2006

Jin,

I would agree with you about them not being safe. I am ignorant about the double pilot check valves, but they sound like a good deal.

I have this FUN memory of my youth (probably age 6) when I overnighted at a buddy's farm. The next day, buddy's dad put us in the FEL bucket of (most likely) an Allis 40HP tractor and raised us up and down while driving around the shop area. He even curled the bucket forward, scaring the stuffing out of us at heigth! It was probably the first time I got hooked how much fun tractors could be.

However, looking back, that was SO UNSAFE. I would never do that with my kids or any other kids today. Guess we were oblivious back then.

ron