Need recommendation

[LD1]

Terryknight:

Loaded tires would add ~1200# to that combo. So 9k-9.5k for the OP.

Have you ever towed it with the loader and mower both on the 20' trailer? How far off the back did the mower hang?

I have a 20' BP trailer. And a much smaller kubota L3400. With the loader and a 6' hog, it dont work too well. Overall length is about 23'. Not sure one could do a larger tractor with 6' hog without most of the bushhog hanging off the back of the trailer.

Your RM90 mower probably isnt as long as a 6' bushhog

 

[terryknight]

i think you're light on the loaded tires, but i don't have the manual in front of me. i think it says about 750-760 lbs per tire, either way it's quite a bit more.

i was hoping i had a pic of the tractor/bucket/mower on the smaller trailer, i don't. the tailwheels i normal push sideways and they fall right behind the deck of the trailer, just hanging off. i wouldn't try to move the 6ft bushhog or the scraper blade on the trailer. way too long

 

[LD1]

i think you're light on the loaded tires, but i don't have the manual in front of me. i think it says about 750-760 lbs per tire, either way it's quite a bit more.

i was hoping i had a pic of the tractor/bucket/mower on the smaller trailer, i don't. the tailwheels i normal push sideways and they fall right behind the deck of the trailer, just hanging off. i wouldn't try to move the 6ft bushhog or the scraper blade on the trailer. way too long

The chart I saw said 57 gallons for a 16.9x28. So if WW fluid @ 8#, thats actually a little under 500# per tire. But calcium or rimguard pushing 11#/gallon, could be more. Either way, 9000-9500 is probably close enough.

As to the trailer, I think you would want even more than 22' if there was a 6' hog hanging off the back. Thus my recommendation for a 24-25' trailer. Would you agree? or do you think it is doable on a 22'?

 

[terryknight]

you could do it. but alot depends on the situation, are you carrying the bucket? the loader? neither? where are the axles on the trailer? can you pull the tractor on backwards and put a mower more over the tongue? what about driving on frontwards and hanging the loader/bucket over the tongue? all depends yes it can be done, once you get to 25ft BP may as well go with a GN. my thoughts anyway.

From my manual 14.9-28 tires using calcium chloride @ 5lbs/gal 574lbs per tire 75% full
16.9-28 747lbs per tire
16.9-24 (r4) 654lbs per tire

so with the smaller tires you were right 1200ish lbs.

 

[LD1]

Even on the 16.9x28,s it just depends on what they are loaded with.

It holds 57 gallons.

Water is 8.3#/gallon, so JUST water or WW fluid would be #473 per tire

With and additional 5# per gallon of dissolved calcium, that would add 285# per tire for a total of ~758# per tire.

Ofcourse it could be anything in between too.

 

[terryknight]

true. but i feel that a 16.9-28 tire is more than 57 gal.

not that it makes a difference in what we're talking about

 

[terryknight]

found this, don't know how accurate it is

matches the JD manual

Ballast Volume and Weight

 

[LD1]

Interesting.

This was what I first glanced at http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/resmgmt/publist/200Series/210104-1.pdf

But looking at some other charts, seems most are saying the same thing you are.

But you are right, dont much matter in the context of this thread.

 

[terryknight]

those canadians and their imperial gallons

 

[Diamondpilot]

Plain and simple you need more truck.

Sorry for the bad news.

Chris