Neighbor doesn't want me to farm.

[Industrial Toys]

I ran into neighbor differences as well in the past week. It just amazes me how little it takes to start a feud! He was in his tree stand trying to hunt deer. I was landscaping, with an OEM back-up alarm on my loader.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Hah. How much land for both of you? I really think the deer could care less about farm equipment that is more than a hundred yds away. I have killed big deer that were less than 100 yds from a busy road. It actually helps because I can use the traffic noise to cover the sound of my movements.
I know that a property i used to hunt was next to a place that often had recreational shooters and they would sometimes shoot all day. Last day of the season last year they shot all day long. All kinds of weapons. I was amazed that anyone can afford that much ammo.

 

[Industrial Toys]

That's what we used to do. All kinds of crazy military hardware. Not just all day, but often at night. Tracers are more fun at night! Even one weekend with commercial explosives! What a horrible neighbor I was! And no one ever called the cops. AMAZING!

I think it was just the irritating noise for the hunter, more then the prospect of it scaring his prey. We each have a hundred acres and I was working a couple hundred yards from his little tree fort. It was close to dark and sound really travels around here.

 

[TomSeller]

Have you seen any negative effect on pollination? Still getting good fruit production?

Most of my trees are old and the branches have a hard time supporting all the apples. But the pests I am controlling come on much later than pollination, so the Spinosad doesn't seem to impact the crop. Very few bees at that time.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Most of my trees are old and the branches have a hard time supporting all the apples. But the pests I am controlling come on much later than pollination, so the Spinosad doesn't seem to impact the crop. Very few bees at that time.

I did some reading on it. That looks like a promising product.

 

[JerryK]

I have used Spinosad on smaller maple trees to kill forest tent caterpillars that were strip'n the leaves off all my maples. Nothing I could do to help the big trees. It sounded like rain walking out in the woods with all the krap falling down. Spinosad is a new alternative to BT... someone found it in the ground near some old brewery or sumptin... Finally some type of fly starting to over breed and kill off the caterpillars... laying their eggs in the live caterpillar. But that was about five years ago.... The forest tent caterpillars are not to be confused with the tent caterpillars that build an actual nest and attack trees like cherries....

 

[turnkey4099]

Hah. How much land for both of you? I really think the deer could care less about farm equipment that is more than a hundred yds away. I have killed big deer that were less than 100 yds from a busy road. It actually helps because I can use the traffic noise to cover the sound of my movements.
I know that a property i used to hunt was next to a place that often had recreational shooters and they would sometimes shoot all day. Last day of the season last year they shot all day long. All kinds of weapons. I was amazed that anyone can afford that much ammo.

Last place I helped Dad farm was 10 miles out in the boonies from Craigmont, Id. Cat 22 (that is a little crawler tractor. Working the field with that I could get almost within poking distance of deer if I didn't stop the tractor. If they were more than about 20 yards away just stopping as long as it kept idling and they paid no attention. Filled the tag a couple times from the seat.

Harry K

 

[TomSeller]

I did some reading on it. That looks like a promising product.

Your neighbors may even support it since it is natural. That'd be a turn of events.

 

[ultrarunner]

I don't know what I would do if I did not have good neighbors... simply having a tractor or a trailer not in a garage is forbidden... good thing I've helped all of them!

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

Dude! How can you live there? Seriously! So many rules and restrictions. (wood stoves and such). I'm pretty sure you're neighbors would think the Clampets came to the city if I tried to live there.
I'm guessing your not allowed to pee in your yard either?

 

[ultrarunner]

Nope... a Doctor I work with was coming home from a holiday party with his wife and suddenly got the urge to go and pulled off the highway... just as he was getting situated behind a tree a cruiser pulls up thinking car trouble... his wife said no... my husband has a weak bladder... he was cited and had to hire a lawyer and appear in court... very costly as the event was down in Monterey..

The DA let him do community service and said he got off easy as he could have been charged with indecent exposure which would have put him on the *** offender registry if found guilty... there was also a secondary charge of failure to obey because the officer ordered him to stop mid stream and he didn't...

None of this is made up...

Back to my HOA... for 50 years the HOA function was to maintain the roads... about the time I bought in things started to change... the most recent CCR were just released... any landscape changes, exterior color change, roofing, vegetation removal now require prior approval... no commercial vehicles, trailers, tractors to be stored outside... front, back or side yards.

Three years ago found my perfect spot of 5 acres in the county... just couldn't make it happen... since, prices are up anywhere from 50 to 100% since 2012...

I've had zero problems and really great neighbors... mostly all retired... not sure what will happen when they start selling and moving...

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Even though it is an all natural product, I won't likely be discussing it with the neighbors. I'm gonna be neighborly and helpful but I'm playing my cards close to the vest from here out. I think they are the type with too much time on their hands...going thru life, looking for a cause. Keep my head down and keep doing my thing and they will move on to something else. Help keep the road clear in the winter time, smile and wave, swing by to give a hand here and there . Keep the brush clear from the road-(I own a few hundred yards of the private road....they have right of way) As for peeing in my yard, I have 50+ acres. I can Crap on a stump. Nobody will know. I really think the problem will be solved in time. I sent the guy an email offering to let him hunt. He said thank you but he hunts his mother's farm about 15 miles away and also has access to some of the properties up the mountain......there are a couple large 2-300 acre places up the mountain from us that are just cabin retreats. I think he has gotten to know all the folks there over the years. like some said here, they probably were just so used to feeling like they had use of and a sense of control over their surroundings, having me show up and change things was hard to take.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

It's good to see you making progress.

One thing I would check, there may be a requirement to have the posted no trespassing signs every X amount of feet from each other. Being nice and not putting a sign within his view may not be in accordance with requirements.

Just a thought.

In Virginia you can mark the land as no trespassing/no hunting with 2 inch by 8 inch aluminum colored paint mark on trees. 3-6 feet from the ground. And I have them all around my place. I noticed after I did that, the neighbors on the other side marked their land with bright yellow no trespassing signs. Suits me fine.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

I think the being mean part is a go to move for a lot of people after having their hand burned by the stove one too many times. Coming on here and posting about it gave me time to vent a little and consider my next move instead of spewing out my venom in response.

 

[Paul Thornton]

I think you have handled it well, wouldn't have a problem with you for a neighbor.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Human interaction is never easy or straight forward. Sure, one would think being "NICE" is the answer. But people all too often don't respect nice any more then they do an A-Hole. It's just amazing how pushy some neighbors can be to have their way. And sure, it's all smiles, BBQs and friendly chit-chat until they don't get their way.

 

[ultrarunner]

I had a few difficult first encounters over the years... some actually turned around and we became good friends... respect often must be earned.

Others went South and that's OK too.