Neighbor Relations

[zzvyb6]

In my experience, your fence will only partially solve the problem. He will move it. He will do everything to keep your fence from setting the true boundary. And don't bother to go half on the fence. This is war. War is not about whose right, its about who's left. There needs to be a substantial boundary marker that is permanent, indisputable, and easily seen. Yes he will try to move, alter or destroy it. Have a lawyer send him a notice of intent to sue for costs, distress and punitive dmamages. If necessary, follow through. Otherwise, your property has become devalued for you and whomever would be foolish enough to buy it.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

In my experience, your fence will only partially solve the problem. He will move it. He will do everything to keep your fence from setting the true boundary. And don't bother to go half on the fence. This is war. War is not about whose right, its about who's left. There needs to be a substantial boundary marker that is permanent, indisputable, and easily seen. Yes he will try to move, alter or destroy it. Have a lawyer send him a notice of intent to sue for costs, distress and punitive dmamages. If necessary, follow through. Otherwise, your property has become devalued for you and whomever would be foolish enough to buy it.

Whoa, I don't think these guys are at the point of playing yard bingo and parking a fleet of rusty junkers along the property boundary to tick off the neighbor.

Fence, be nice, but firm and fair. No lawyers. No threats.

 

[square1]

Keep lawyers out of it, they'll be the only winners if they get involved. Be relentless in doing everything short of lawyers to keep this guy on his own property, including rusty junkers or boulders if needed. Do not give an inch!

My neighbor actually built a small shed on top of 6" pipe and would roll it a few inches at a time farther onto my property. He denied it when I confronted him saying the pipes were to allow air flow so the timbers wouldn't rot from being in contact with the ground. When I pointed out the 3" strip of green grass between the rollers under the side of the shed where it had been moved and the dead spot with no vegetation next the shed on the side closer to his property and the obvious indentations from were the pipe had been sitting that were now visible he turned 50 shades of red, started stammering, and stomped off in a huff.

 

[check]

Keep lawyers out of it, they'll be the only winners if they get involved. Be relentless in doing everything short of lawyers to keep this guy on his own property, including rusty junkers or boulders if needed. Do not give an inch! My neighbor actually built a small shed on top of 6" pipe and would roll it a few inches at a time farther onto my property. He denied it when I confronted him saying the pipes were to allow air flow so the timbers wouldn't rot from being in contact with the ground. When I pointed out the 3" strip of green grass between the rollers under the side of the shed where it had been moved and the dead spot with no vegetation next the shed on the side closer to his property and the obvious indentations from were the pipe had been sitting that were now visible he turned 50 shades of red, started stammering, and stomped off in a huff.

How petty and sneaky! I bet he cheats at Monopoly, too!

 

[turnkey4099]

In my experience, your fence will only partially solve the problem. He will move it. He will do everything to keep your fence from setting the true boundary. And don't bother to go half on the fence. This is war. War is not about whose right, its about who's left. There needs to be a substantial boundary marker that is permanent, indisputable, and easily seen. Yes he will try to move, alter or destroy it. Have a lawyer send him a notice of intent to sue for costs, distress and punitive dmamages. If necessary, follow through. Otherwise, your property has become devalued for you and whomever would be foolish enough to buy it.

And take pictures, pictures, more pictures, and date and explain every one.

Harry K

 

[MossRoad]

Keep lawyers out of it, they'll be the only winners if they get involved. Be relentless in doing everything short of lawyers to keep this guy on his own property, including rusty junkers or boulders if needed. Do not give an inch!

My neighbor actually built a small shed on top of 6" pipe and would roll it a few inches at a time farther onto my property. He denied it when I confronted him saying the pipes were to allow air flow so the timbers wouldn't rot from being in contact with the ground. When I pointed out the 3" strip of green grass between the rollers under the side of the shed where it had been moved and the dead spot with no vegetation next the shed on the side closer to his property and the obvious indentations from were the pipe had been sitting that were now visible he turned 50 shades of red, started stammering, and stomped off in a huff.

I'd have gone out at night and moved it closer and closer to his house. :laughing:

 

[Sprinklerman]

Get a couple tandems of dirt delivered and dump them near the property line . When the neighbor asks what that for ? Tell him you are sponsoring this years turkey shoot .

 

[Zerk]

I would grow a pair, before I put up an expensive fence.

I would start off just being assertive, and let it detiorate from their.

I actually like the idea of trees on the property line, as long as there are no building to fall on in 30 years. Maybe pound some t-posts until they get taller. I'd tell them the trees will be good way to keep things clear.

If he is moving trees back, I suspect he got the point he can't walk on you. I had some neighbors who kept want to use my property, I kept blowing them off. Saying I dunno, I'll think about it. Eventually relationship detiorated, cause of differences. But I sure didn't spend $4k on a fence.

Though live stock fence is cheap.

 

[FTG-05]

I appreciate the feedback everyone. I get back next weekend and I'll look into SOME type of fencing. In speaking with our town code officer, he said a farm fence housing animals can be ON the property line, but a farm fence NOT housing animals has to be 2' off of the property line. So if I put a cow/sheep out there for an hour a year, I'm good, right? :laughing:

I can tell he's trying to take advantage...and I'm not stupid, that's why I talked with the code officer (though my understanding of setbacks, etc. was already spot on). What I DIDN'T (or forgot to) mention is that he initially told me that he felt his property line went back an additional 20-30 feet and that the surveyor made a mistake. Even the code officer said that he would need to take that up with his surveyor and if there had been a discrepancy, I would have been notified.

Anyhow...I think I'll look into 5" posts every 8-10 feet and then decide on the wire/strands placement. Didn't want to spend the $$$ on this now, but looks like I'll have to. 720 feet of fencing will not be cheap!

720 feet of fence is probably by far the cheapest solution for this situation. All other options go far higher than that very quickly.

I would also probably order another survey of that specific property line. Make sure to use the same surveyor and inform him of the potential of a property line dispute so that he is very careful. Ask to mark the line very clearly, paying for extra bright orange fence posts, if necessary, (that what they use here) so there's no visual question as to where the line is. Then I would plant a fence as close to the line as legally allowed.

I would also talk to a local attorney and seek his advice. If there were any more actions by the so-called neighbor encroaching on your property, I would start sending letters via my attorney spelling out the consequences. Your neighbor is playing you. Don't play back.

 

[turnkey4099]

720 feet of fence is probably by far the cheapest solution for this situation. All other options go far higher than that very quickly.

I would also probably order another survey of that specific property line. Make sure to use the same surveyor and inform him of the potential of a property line dispute so that he is very careful. Ask to mark the line very clearly, paying for extra bright orange fence posts, if necessary, (that what they use here) so there's no visual question as to where the line is. Then I would plant a fence as close to the line as legally allowed.

I would also talk to a local attorney and seek his advice. If there were any more actions by the so-called neighbor encroaching on your property, I would start sending letters via my attorney spelling out the consequences. Your neighbor is playing you. Don't play back.

And when those orange (or whatever markers) are placed take pictures showing where they are in relaltion to identifiable permanent items. Neighbor (old lady) sold her small acreage. It was surveyed. Next day I could clearly see that two of the stakes on the East border had been moved. It was never challenged and the property now has about 1 acre more area.

Harry K

Harry K