Neighbor

   / Neighbor #11  
Mi-Mike, that is what fences are for. Run a simple fence down that line and that will make it obvious to your neighbor where to stop his mowing and gardening.

- Tim
 
   / Neighbor #12  
Well even though your survey may show that the fence is 6 inches inside your lot line his survey may show that the fence is on his property. Talk to him and try to get an understanding of where he thinks the lot line is. Show him your survey and ask to see his. If this is where the descrepency is it will be pretty obvious. When you both see what the problem is then it shouldn't take much to fix. ON the other hand if he is really a jerk then other action may have to be taken.
 
   / Neighbor #13  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( In this case, talking didn't help, and the problem isn't big enough for the police, so I just steam. )</font>

Put up a cheap 2 strand barb wire and t-post fence.. fast.. cheap.. and gets the point across.

Soundguy
 
   / Neighbor #14  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Well even though your survey may show that the fence is 6 inches inside your lot line his survey may show that the fence is on his property.)</font>

In this case you go to the county and find your parcel map in the archives. The map my property is on shows the galvanized pipe markers. It also shows decades old fence lines which are not in the right place. On my 660' western boundary, the map shows the fence 12" off the mark to my detriment on the south end and 18" off the mark to my favor on the north end. The true boundary and the fence line cross on the map and the fence errors are clearly written and spelled out on the map. On my 330' southern boundary, it shows the fence off the mark by 12" in my favor the entire length. The true boundary and the fence line are drawn parallel and the error is spelled out right on the map.

I have owned the property 16 years and the fences were here long before that. How it is that the county has a map which shows the fences and markers with the exact same measurements I get when I take the tape measure into the field, I do not know.

The ranch to the west has been in that neighbor's family for generations and he doesn't care what the map says. To him, the fence is the line.

There is no fence between me and the neighbor to the east but the 2 neighbors to the south of me and him have a fence that is 18" off. If that fence continued, it would separate my property from my eastern neighbor. This neighbor claimed that that imaginary fence line was the true property line for us. I took him out with a long tape measure and showed him the exact 330' from stake to stake of his southern line and then the exact 330' from stake to stake on my southern side. He said that didn't matter; if he put a fence up, it was going to be where the imaginary continuation of the other 2 neighbors' fence was. I told him that line was off too. He just wouldn't believe it. Now my property and his used to be one parcel. When he bought the 10 acres 18 years ago, he split it into a pair of fives. He'd forgotten something: when he split the 10 acres, he signed a copy of the county map saying the survey markers were correct. When I brought home a copy of the county map to show him his own signature on it, he was absolutely speechless, just wouldn't say anything.

This was a hardheaded man, always was sure he was right. Yes, past tense is correct. He had 2 sons. The younger one turned 16 last Sept. so the father bought the son a new rifle and took him over near Yosemite to teach the boy how to deer hunt. The dad was just so arrogant about everything, he didn't think it important to teach the boy much about safety. He didn't have the son unload the gun when done. As the father stood by the open driver's door, the son lifted the rifle, loaded, cocked, safety off, up and onto the gun rack. Point blank. Right in the chest. That boy will have to live with that for a lifetime, but the fault was with an arrogant father who just wanted to invent his own truth about everything.
 
   / Neighbor #15  
Ah, neighbors.

On my east property line, the previous owners of my property put up a 6' high alternating picket privacy-like fence (head-on, you can't see through it, but look through at a 45* angle, and you can see right through). Over the winter, we had some serious wind storms with gusts up to 80 mph. A 24' section of that fence blew down onto the neighbor's property. A few weeks later, she called me asking how long it was going to take me to repair the fence, and to let me know that she had no money to help with the repairs, but it was my fence because it was on my property.

The fence is in line with 9 other neighbor's various fence types that distinguish everyone's property lines. So, somehow, the 6' fence is "clearly" on my property, is my responsibility when money is needed for repairs, but 100 linear feet of it suited my neighbor just fine as the west fence for her horse corral, which was kept illegally, as her property is too small to keep a horse on. While doing the repairs, I found that her horse had chewed up 80 pickets on her side of "my" fence. It also appears that the reason for that 24' section of fence blowing over is that 2 fence posts rotted at the ground. The 2 posts that rotted are smack dab in the middle of a spot that I found full of raw sewage that had been bubbling up to the surface above her leach field in her horse corral, and was flowing onto my property. I had to use a bunch of good topsoil to lay a berm along my side of the fence line to stop the flow of sewage onto my property. I never got an apology - all she did was switch over to the other leach field, and still to this day, no septic repairs have been made. I believe her septic system is failing as a result of her running a hair salon (illegally) out of her house. The septic system was certainly never designed for those kinds of loads on it, as we are not zoned for a business of that type.

To the north of my property, a couple purchased the neighbor's house and immediately began a renovation project. Once my house renovation began, I brought in a porta-potty for the guys on my project. Since bringing it in, the workers from the neighbor's property have been climbing over the split rail fence to use the porta-potty. I finally went to the owner the other day and asked that she pay me half of the cost of the rental since her crews were using the porta-potty, even though they told me that they wouldn't need to use it since there was a working toilet in that house.

The owner explained that there was no reason for her workers to use the porta-potty since she had a working toilet, and that she would tell them to stop. I explained that that was fine, but they had been getting more use out of it than my crew was for a month and a half, and I would appreciate some financial compensation. She said "your guys need to pee more then" and walked away. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Another neighbor to my east asked me (when I was putting up my split rail fence with wire mesh in the back yard to keep my dog in the yard), to leave enough room between my property and the neighbor to the south's horse corral so that he could get a truck up the other neighbor's driveway, and across my property to access his back yard (he's got plenty of room to drive a truck around either side of his house on his own property). He's the one who damaged my leach field by driving a truck over it before I bought the property, and when putting the fence up, I found fairly fresh dually ruts on the edge of my leach field. I have since added a bunch of trees, and firewood to that corner of the property to ensure he can't get a truck in there.

I could go on, but I think this is enough ranting. Sometimes people just amaze me. I guess I've got to stop being so nice, since it seems that there are a lot of jerks out there in the world.
 
   / Neighbor #16  
Wow. makes me feel pretty good about my neighbors, one of whom shares my passion for old cars and hot rods, and has a well equipped shop now. Another owns a 'bobcat" and likes to help neighbors regrade their driveways when they need some more gravel laid down. Another is never home, and when he is just stays in his house.
About the only problem I have is with loose neighborhood dogs, and sinse perusing this forum I've learned a lot of good ways to handle that.........
 
   / Neighbor #17  
I may have to, but the thought of putting up 600 feet of fence isn't appealing. Of course, neither is "stewing" over the problem. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
   / Neighbor #18  
I know what you mean.. who wants to go put up fence.

I was in the same boat last year. i had a pasture I was renovating that had an open front that shared fencing with some of my neighbors on 3 sides. I wanted to wait.. get it going good.. and then do a post, top board board and wire.. or at least.. post and wire. Problem was that some kids fromdown the road would ride atv's on my pasture.. blow big ruts etc. ate the young grass up.. and made ruts 6"-8" deep. Those ruts cost me alot of time changing shear pins on my rotary cutter.

One sunday I got up and drove by and saw more damage... went got my trailer.. went to tsc.. bought 1000' roll of gaucho wire, and a few bundles of t-posts.. driver, u-nails, and some corner and brace posts, and a 12' gate. Took me from noon to 8pm but i got all 330' of 3 strand gaucho up.. corner and brace posts and gate hung... I packed up my tool in the dark.. but I was finished.

I put up stakes and yellow tape and reflector markers all along the fence, and reflective tape on the gate to let the 'riders' know that something had changed.

I didn't want to do that 'temp fence.. but it has saved me grief since I have done it. Aside from cost.. your 600' fence should be a weekend job.. If you don't want to do barb wire.. go hi-tensile.. still works on t-posts.. etc. 3 wire would look nice..

Soundguy
 
   / Neighbor #20  
Keep in mind that you can do a temporary fence with some high tension wire and t-posts pretty quickly.

Maybe look at those t-post lock kits that let you make corner and brace setups with t-posts, then just stick a t-post every 50 feet or whatever max the slope allows and you are done for now.

Oh and get some of those yellow electric fence warning signs to stick on it as well. That makes folks even less likely to try and crawl thru it or even touch it. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 

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