Neighbors Bull

[nobull1]

they only stay in the fence because they want to. When they want out, they'll go for it.

I agree with that statement. I very rarely have a animal get loose over/around our fences. I contribute that to always keeping the animals content (Lots of FOOD). So long as they are content they usually won't be pushing fences, unless there is a reason. A cow in heat is a good way to intice a bull over for a visit. Putting prime feed right along the wrong side of the fence will work as well. Also a calf on the wrong side will get a cow over. I seen this first hand one day as I was going to get a calf from the wrong side of the fence. The cow was bawling and getting no response, so after appearing to look around to make sure no one was looking the 1400 lb cow reared up and cleared the fence without touching a wire just like a jumper horse. I learned a long time ago that the cattle stay inside the fence because "they" think it's a good idea, not the fence,or because you want them to.

 

[Egon]

Has anyone ever attached a pole on each side of a cow critters head to keep it fro butting through a fence??

Once petted and named they become hard to digest until one is really hungry!

 

[Bird]

Has anyone ever attached a pole on each side of a cow critters head to keep it fro butting through a fence??

Egon, I'd almost forgotten about something similar; haven't seen it since I was a kid, but folks used to call them a "yoke". I've seen two types; one was simply a forked stick, kind of like a sling shot, but about 3 or 4 feet long, put under the cow's neck, and then the top "forks" tied together across the top of her neck. The other kind was about 1 to 1 1/2" flat steel of the same length, bent in the middle to go around the cow's neck, and a second piece on the other side of her neck. They were then bolted together above and below her neck.

 

[jinman]

Egon, I'd almost forgotten about something similar; haven't seen it since I was a kid, but folks used to call them a "yoke". .

Bird, you beat me to it. We used yokes on a few cows, but mostly they just hung in our barn. The part of the yoke that rubbed against the cow would get smooth and shiny. The only other place that was that smooth was the wooden boards on the milking stalls where the cows put their heads thru and the poles in the barn that they used to use as scratching posts.

 

[Egon]

Yokes it is. As I recall there were many different versions.

 

[nobull1]

Has anyone ever attached a pole on each side of a cow critters head to keep it fro butting through a fence??

Once petted and named they become hard to digest until one is really hungry!

In my case the calfs always seem to lay down along side of the fence and when getting up, they get up on the wrong side. Once this happens they don't have a clue how to get back.

As far as eating the animals with names. Yes it is hard , until someone says Bar b on, then I am first in line

 

[nobull1]

We have a bunch of the bottom pivot steel yokes, but I just use chain,quick release catches and a swivel. They are easily attached and adjusted. I did have one of my bulls get the chain snap hooked into his nose ring a couple of times though. That was a tricky deal, trying to release the snap as you pull on the ring (bull not happy ). I have a few of them stories, some funny, some not. Maybe I will start a new thread on farm animal stories. I am sure a lot of people have a few to add.

 

[Bird]

As far as eating the animals with names. Yes it is hard , until someone says Bar b on, then I am first in line

When I was a kid, I really hated to even be around, or be in sight, when a pig or calf was killed. I didn't much mind helping to skin or gut them; just didn't like to see the killing, but it sure never affected my appetite.

 

[KYErik]

We have a goat that we "yoked". It kept stiking its head/cut horns through the square holes in our field fence to eat the grass on the other side and then he would get his horns stuck sometimes when he tried to pull his head out. Then he would ball and ball untill we helped him free.

A 16 inch long piece of 1/2" CPVC duct taped across the top of his horns kept him from sticking his head through anymore! It stayed on for about 3 months and by that time, his horns were long enough that he couldn't stick his head through anymore.

 

[Bird]

Hmm, I helped a couple of my goats get loose from the fence at times, but never thought of that trick with the CPVC. I've never seen that done, but sounds like a good idea.

 

[Unclebuck257]

I have a neighbor with 80 acres whose property borders about 1/8 of my place. He is constantly running heiffers in there with no bull, and his heiffers are usually coming into heat, or go into heat, while on that particular pasture. If he had a bull, both his heiffers and my bull would be better off for obvious reasons.

His fences are in poor condition and he refuses to repair them, so after making repair upon repair, I finally said I'm done fixing the mutual fence alone. His heiffers get onto my place every now and then and ocassionally, my bull goes over and visits his heiffers for a little romance.

We have a Charlais bull and I have no intention at all of getting rid of him. I guess it depends on the situation and the neighbor, regarding keeping the bull or not, but putting heiffers in heat, without a bull, in a pasture next to a pasture with a bull with weak fences, is not real smart anyway. No matter the breed of the bull, that is just asking for trouble, for both parties, especially when those "fluzzie" heiffers flaunt it at the fence line constantly!!

I think this neighbor does it on purpose anyway since he has repeatedly stated what a good looking bull we have and how good looking the calves are that he sires! I look at it as "Country Romance with a wink!"

 

[nobull1]

I think this neighbor does it on purpose anyway since he has repeatedly stated what a good looking bull we have and how good looking the calves are that he sires! I look at it as "Country Romance with a wink!"

Depending on the breed and age of the heifers he has, 9.5 months from now might be a happy day, or a call the vet with his knife for emergency surgery day. Those Charolais can be quite big, as I am sure you know. I wonder what he would have to say if he had calving issues with your bull being the cause?

 

[tallyho8]

His fences are in poor condition and he refuses to repair them, so after making repair upon repair, I finally said I'm done fixing the mutual fence alone. His heiffers get onto my place every now and then and ocassionally, my bull goes over and visits his heiffers for a little romance. QUOTE]

I don't know the laws in Texas but in Louisiana the owner of the bull or stallion is totally responsible for keeping his animal on his property and is completely liable for all damages the animal does while on another's property. This includes fence damage, damage to livestock etc. There is NO mutual fence unless there is a contract designating it to be so. The fence belongs either to one neighbor or the other and if it is his fence he has no responsibility maintaining it strong enough that your bull can not cross it.

 

[weldingisfun]

I have a neighbor with 80 acres whose property borders about 1/8 of my place. He is constantly running heiffers in there with no bull, and his heiffers are usually coming into heat, or go into heat, while on that particular pasture. If he had a bull, both his heiffers and my bull would be better off for obvious reasons.

His fences are in poor condition and he refuses to repair them, so after making repair upon repair, I finally said I'm done fixing the mutual fence alone. His heiffers get onto my place every now and then and ocassionally, my bull goes over and visits his heiffers for a little romance.

We have a Charlais bull and I have no intention at all of getting rid of him. I guess it depends on the situation and the neighbor, regarding keeping the bull or not, but putting heiffers in heat, without a bull, in a pasture next to a pasture with a bull with weak fences, is not real smart anyway. No matter the breed of the bull, that is just asking for trouble, for both parties, especially when those "fluzzie" heiffers flaunt it at the fence line constantly!!

I think this neighbor does it on purpose anyway since he has repeatedly stated what a good looking bull we have and how good looking the calves are that he sires! I look at it as "Country Romance with a wink!"

Hey there Unclebuck, I don't know how to put this to you gently, so I wont't try. Put up your own fence across the 1/8 adjoining section. That fence cannot be your neighbors (his) fence and a mutual fence. The only way to solve your problem is for you to build your own "bull proof" fence. Sorry, but someone just had to say it.

 

[Nick Horton]

We had a lot of trouble with a Welsh Black cow (imagine something between a Canadian Angus and a very big Dexter, and better than both) who would not respect an electric fence. I tried choosing the moment and dowsing her with a bucket of water to get her a good shock, no good, so I rigged her up with a wire collar fixed with a vertical spike so she was bound to get a good contact. That didn't work either, she just went where she wanted. But it gave us a few laughs with the walkers that went through who thought (and I didn't put them off the idea) that she was keen on the Rolling Stones and just couldn't be without her radio....she was the one that shat right down the inside of my overalls when she was in the crush, filled my boots right up. She had a well developed sense of humour as well as good musical taste.
English Nick

 

[jimmyj]

Nick my good man, I think your post is very funny but can you show us a pic of that beast? The thread you have revived is years old, and it's only post #2 for you so let's see a pic please. The boots too eh!

 

[johnrex62]

Well, for an old post I can add an old story.

Back when I was a young whippersnapper, guess this must be nigh on 40 years ago now, my uncle had a young Brama bull he called Toby. Well Toby had his heart set on all of my uncle's neighbors cows, as well as the neighbors airplane.

Well now, if the neighbor wasn't real happy about Toby's intentions with the cows and he was surely plumb put out about Toby's intentions toward his Cessna.

Toby walked through 5 strand barbed wire fences without a care, and even pushed through a galvanized tin hangar door to reach his goal. He fought 6 men who tried to keep him away and did his best to keep the 10 men on the ropes from dragging him into that trailer on that fateful day. Toby was a wonder to behold and in the end was quite delicious.