Neightbor's daughter falls 45ft down into well...

[N80]

That might be a good topic for another thread. I have two beaver lodges that I'd like to get rid of and dynamite would be perfect. I've been told its not rocket science to use, but I just assumed it was not available for individuals to purchase.

 

[hosejockey2002]

Rescue squad was on the scene within 20 minutes, and they had her extricated within 45 minutes by sending down a guy on a harness, attaching one to her, and pulling both of them up with a dually.

They WHAT??? Normally I don't Monday morning quarterback calls that I wasn't involved in, but raising a human load with a truck is a great way to kill somebody. If the rescuer or victim had become jammed or entangled at all during the raise, they would have been instantly killed or severely injured. With just a few pulleys and some guys to haul on the rope they could have had her out just as fast and MUCH more safely.

Glad it turned out OK, that is a low frequency, high risk type rescue that has a very high injury and death rate for both victim and rescuer.

 

[Tig]

Good point about the septic tanks, MossRoad. I have an ancient one on the property that I do not walk over. I'll have to dig it up next summer and ensure that it gets a sound cover. Right now it has sunk a bit, kind of like an old grave.

 

[N80]

They WHAT??? Normally I don't Monday morning quarterback calls that I wasn't involved in, but raising a human load with a truck is a great way to kill somebody.

Maybe the dually had a winch?

 

[hosejockey2002]

Maybe the dually had a winch?

Unless it was a hand winch it's not a good idea to use a winch for rescue, for the same reasons. When you use a power device to raise and your load (person) gets hung up or jammed, it's too easy to instantly apply thousands of pounds of pull to the victim or rescuer's harness, causing serious injury. Using a mechanical advantage system of ropes and pulleys you are using just enough pull to raise the load. That way when your victim's shoulder gets jammed in the shaft as you are raising they say "oww, stop" instead of getting their arm torn off.

 

[dmccarty]

That might be a good topic for another thread. I have two beaver lodges that I'd like to get rid of and dynamite would be perfect. I've been told its not rocket science to use, but I just assumed it was not available for individuals to purchase.

Sometime just before or after 9/2001 I was looking at using explosive to clear stumps and I talked to a supplier as well as read the ATF regs. At the time I could get stuff that went boom. I don't know if this is still true today though.

If you want to remove beavers the best device is a "pond leveling device." Clemson at one time had information about them and I'm sure there are other sites with information on the Internet. The device is simply a 6 inch PVC pipe pushed through the dam so that the pipe is about 6 feet into the pond and six feet down from the dam. Holes are drilled in the pond end of the pipe to help waterflow. The beavers know the water is escaping from the pond via the pipe but they can't figure out how to stop it.

I'm assuming you want to drain the pond and then get rid of the lodges. Beavers will keep return to a good spot so just removing the current population only buys a bit of time before the next ones show up. The pond leveler keeps them away.

Later,
Dan

 

[N80]

If you want to remove beavers the best device is a "pond leveling device."

I'm not sure I understand that. The dam already has a riser (what I call a spillway) with a pipe that sticks out the back of the dam and it has not deterred the beavers at all. Plus, this dam is big. It would take serious heavy equipment to put a 6' pipe through it! Edit: See below. I'm an idiot.

They dam the creek leading into the pond from time to time but thats not the problem and I can dismantle these with a pick and shovel. The problem is that they are ringing all my hardwoods! So far its just been gums, but if they touch my whiteoaks there's going to be a war (Bill Murray vs Gopher comes to mind ).

I'm assuming you want to drain the pond and then get rid of the lodges.

That's just the thing, I can't drain it. Old valve rusted away so there is no level control. But, with the drought, both lodges (barely lodges, just big pile of sticks and their on the banks) are high and dry, entrances exposed.

That's why now is a good time to act. Plus, I could blow the cap on this well that I have at the same time that I blow these two lodges.

Beavers will keep return to a good spot so just removing the current population only buys a bit of time before the next ones show up.

This is definitely true. We've trapped them and shot them. Keeps them away for a while but they do come back. (But, we never saw any sign of them until about 5 years ago.) But, all I can do is keep plugging away

The pond leveler keeps them away.

Ohhhh, you put it in the beaver dam! (I'm kind of slow.) But, that won't work. We've had them for 5 years and they've only built dams three or four times and they are very small.

Besides, why miss an opportunity to play with dynamite?

 

[JRobyn]

Took my wife and I about 4-5 months (full FBI background check) to get our Federal Explosives License/Permit to be able to purchase. The suppliers (like Orica) will require the Fed permit plus your state blaster's card.

- Jay

 

[N80]

Took my wife and I about 4-5 months (full FBI background check) to get our Federal Explosives License/Permit to be able to purchase. The suppliers (like Orica) will require the Fed permit plus your state blaster's card.

- Jay

Not worth it for me. Beavers are better company than the Feds.

 

[JRobyn]

You're right! And you basically wind up agreeing that BATFE has the right to come into your place of business (our home in our case) at any time to inspect your blast logs and other business records! Beavers WOULD be better.

- Jay