New 2017 Super Duty

[two_bit_score]

Looks pretty macho, but for some reason the bed looks a bit wispy compared to the front end.

Looks seem to be the thing with Ford....looking good rather than being good.....from the article:

>>>>Construction, government fleets, electrical services, transportation, airport services and more are dominated by Super Duty pickup trucks, but our experiences with Super Duty test vehicles have left us wanting more, especially when compared to more recently updated competitors. In both of our most recent heavy-duty comparison tests — the three-quarter-ton and one-ton Challenges — the Ford Super Duty came in last place.<<<<


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[ovrszd]

I pay no attention to "tests". I simply look at what I see on the hiway working. GM is definitely at the bottom of the list. Dodge would be right beside them if not for the Cummins.

We need to be able to buy 3/4 ton or 1 ton trucks like large trucks are bought. Buy your favorite cab. Then add your favorite engine, trans, axles, suspension package, etc.

My choice would be Ford chassis, Cummins Diesel, Allison Tranny.

 

[RollingsFarms]

I never pay attention to what government buys. It's easy to buy whatever you want when you have tax money to play with. For instance, our city buys Kubota zero turns. The thing is the nearest Kubota dealership is 40 mins away, the local government could easily buy from a local business that sells Exmark, Deere, Hustler, Dixie Chopper, Ferris, and Snapper. But no they choose to buy from a dealership in another county. Funny thing is if you look on the trailers of all the commercial guys you won't find any Kubota zero turns at all.

 

[aczlan]

I never pay attention to what government buys. It's easy to buy whatever you want when you have tax money to play with. For instance, our city buys Kubota zero turns. The thing is the nearest Kubota dealership is 40 mins away, the local government could easily buy from a local business that sells Exmark, Deere, Hustler, Dixie Chopper, Ferris, and Snapper. But no they choose to buy from a dealership in another county. Funny thing is if you look on the trailers of all the commercial guys you won't find any Kubota zero turns at all.

I don't know about your state, but in NY they have a state bid system where the state gets bids for "Zero Turn Lawnmower Diesel, 72" deck" or "Zero Turn Lawnmower, Gas, 72" deck" from various suppliers who have a presence throughout the state and then local municipalities are legally required to purchase that brand of mower for the duration of that contract.
Its intended to prevent cronyism in purchasing and to ensure that everyone buys equipment that will hold up.

Aaron Z

 

[two_bit_score]

I don't know about your state, but in NY they have a state bid system where the state gets bids for "Zero Turn Lawnmower Diesel, 72" deck" or "Zero Turn Lawnmower, Gas, 72" deck" from various suppliers who have a presence throughout the state and then local municipalities are legally required to purchase that brand of mower for the duration of that contract.
Its intended to prevent cronyism in purchasing and to ensure that everyone buys equipment that will hold up.

Aaron Z

Commonly called the 'bid board' and often manipulated to the benefit of those who know the ropes.

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[two_bit_score]

Looks seem to be the thing with Ford....looking good rather than being good.....from the article:

>>>>Construction, government fleets, electrical services, transportation, airport services and more are dominated by Super Duty pickup trucks, but our experiences with Super Duty test vehicles have left us wanting more, especially when compared to more recently updated competitors. In both of our most recent heavy-duty comparison tests — the three-quarter-ton and one-ton Challenges — the Ford Super Duty came in last place.<<<<


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I pay no attention to "tests". I simply look at what I see on the hiway working. GM is definitely at the bottom of the list. Dodge would be right beside them if not for the Cummins.

We need to be able to buy 3/4 ton or 1 ton trucks like large trucks are bought. Buy your favorite cab. Then add your favorite engine, trans, axles, suspension package, etc.

My choice would be Ford chassis, Cummins Diesel, Allison Tranny.

I never pay attention to what government buys. It's easy to buy whatever you want when you have tax money to play with. For instance, our city buys Kubota zero turns. The thing is the nearest Kubota dealership is 40 mins away, the local government could easily buy from a local business that sells Exmark, Deere, Hustler, Dixie Chopper, Ferris, and Snapper. But no they choose to buy from a dealership in another county. Funny thing is if you look on the trailers of all the commercial guys you won't find any Kubota zero turns at all.

Good points. Some observations: What you might see on the road working are often purchased from the 'low bidder' and doesn't always represent the best 'quality' purchase. So, a good reason 'not to buy what the government buys'; or fleets, etc.

In Houston for many years the top producing fleet salesman was at Knapp Chev. He had a system for being able to bid exactly the lowest price on almost any fleet RFP that was available. Delivered more vehicles than any other salesman at any other dealership in Houston year after year. Speculate all you wish as to why but the 'low bid' always got the business.

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[JJZ 109]

I pay no attention to "tests". I simply look at what I see on the hiway working. GM is definitely at the bottom of the list. Dodge would be right beside them if not for the Cummins.

We need to be able to buy 3/4 ton or 1 ton trucks like large trucks are bought. Buy your favorite cab. Then add your favorite engine, trans, axles, suspension package, etc.

My choice would be Ford chassis, Cummins Diesel, Allison Tranny.

I agree. I'm thinking the testers can be just as subjective as anyone else and insert personal preferences. I like your idea of a la carte truck shopping.

 

[blackdog2086]

Watching some of the youtube videos from the Texas state fair where the truck was launched, it seems very impressive. Even though Ford went to aluminum for the body, there isn't the same weight savings as with the F150 because they added weight to the chassis in the form of beefier frame, axles, brakes.

I'm in the marked for a HD diesel pickup and have been waiting for the new super duty before I made my decision. From everything I've seen so far, the Ford is it. Problem now is their spokesperson at the fair states it wont be available until this time next year.

Oh well. I've become used to long waits.

 

[ovrszd]

Good points. Some observations: What you might see on the road working are often purchased from the 'low bidder' and doesn't always represent the best 'quality' purchase. So, a good reason 'not to buy what the government buys'; or fleets, etc.

In Houston for many years the top producing fleet salesman was at Knapp Chev. He had a system for being able to bid exactly the lowest price on almost any fleet RFP that was available. Delivered more vehicles than any other salesman at any other dealership in Houston year after year. Speculate all you wish as to why but the 'low bid' always got the business.

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I was referring to individually owned equipment, certainly not fleet owned.

 

[fordmantpw]

Watching some of the youtube videos from the Texas state fair where the truck was launched, it seems very impressive. Even though Ford went to aluminum for the body, there isn't the same weight savings as with the F150 because they added weight to the chassis in the form of beefier frame, axles, brakes.

I'm in the marked for a HD diesel pickup and have been waiting for the new super duty before I made my decision. From everything I've seen so far, the Ford is it. Problem now is their spokesperson at the fair states it wont be available until this time next year.

Oh well. I've become used to long waits.

It will be worth the wait! I'm hoping to replace my '08 in 2-3 years. I'm interested in seeing the numbers for the gasser to determine if I go back to gas or stick with diesel.