new 84" finishing mower

[thcri]

Re: new 84\" finishing mower

I still wished someone would make a rear pull type finish mower not 3 point. My uncle had one maybe 20 years ago and when he went around trees the mower pulled in close instead of moving away. Yes he had to have a rear hydraulic link but it worked great. I think I would get rid of my MMM in a second flat for a pull type finish.

murph

 

[jd2210]

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My yard is mostly flat. The areas that aren't will soon be, since I'm still finishing my landscaping (built a new house on a previously not established lot). I think if I had any kind of hills this tractor wouldn't do it. There are a couple of areas around my ditches where it would scalp if I let it but you have be careful. My 216 with a 48" scalps in the same place.

 

[jd2210]

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Dargo

I could havenever bought such a big mower if it had not been for thwe rear discharge. A side dis takes all the clipping from one side, sends them through the middle and outside blades, and then out, whereas the rear just sends them out the back.

 

[jd2210]

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For those of you that wanted to see my 84" Buhler on my 2210 here is a couple of pics I shot between rain storms.

 

[jd2210]

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pic 2

 

[MicroPilot]

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Can your tractor lift that mower? Looks like it's way oversized for your tractor.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

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MicroPilot, I was wondering the very same thing you asked, only I wondered if the mower deck could lift the tractor!!!

JD only rates the 2210 with a maximum 17.7 PTO hp, using the generally bantered about numbers of needed 3-to-5 PTO hp for every 12 inches of mower deck, that 84" deck would require nothing less than 21 PTO hp, and then that would be for lawns in more arrid areas of the country where the grass does not grow fast or thick. JD recommends 2 decks with that tractor, a 54" or a 60". I would be seriously worried about engine damage due to overloading the PTO and bogging down the powerplant, which certainly has the potential to decrease the life of the engine pretty substantially.

I know on my 24hp tractor the manufacturer recommends nothing larger than a 60" deck, on my 30hp tractor the manufacture recommends a 72" deck.

I know he wrote that he doesn't have any problems, even in thick grass, but personally that would scare the heck out of me to run something that large on my tractors. I guess that maybe I am on the cautious side, but I like have more power than I need, not less. I hope it all works out long term. But like I said, it is not for me.

 

[jd2210]

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It's very important to note that our grass here, although sometimes long is never thick. On all of my lawn you can see dirt through the grass.

I have a 2130 that I ran a 16' moco on for 8 years. The moco is rated for 80-hp minimum and the tractor now has 11000hours on it and is still running fine.

I also have a F935 with a 76" deck that is 3 hp less than my 2210 and it has 7500 hours on it. I did rebuild the engine at 7000 hours but that was an unrelated issue (block cracked in winter from poor antifreeze)

I have basically the absolute best setup for maximizing implement size: no hills, 2 week intervals for mowing, thin easy cut grass.

I am certainly not recommending this set up for everyone. In fact I would go so far as to argue that my setup is easier on the tractor in my mowing conditions than someone with a 60" in thick wet grass on hills. I did quite a bit of hill cutting in my college days and was shocked at the bog effect on the slopes, not to mention the shift of weight and stress on the driveline and 3 point.

 

[JATO_RaT]

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When I use my 84" finish mower on grass as you describe, I notice no load on my engine (PTO 30.5 HP). I would say in your situation, your mower width is not as much an issue. It all depends on just how much the material you are cutting loads the blades. If it's as slight as your condition, I think your fine. Picking up a heavy load on the rear end is up to you. If it can pick up a heavy load, your on flat ground and you go slowly so as not to bounce or jounce the 3 pt hitch, I think you will again be fine.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

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I think that eliminates a lot of my concerns. I rarely bog down my 60" deck on my lawn, but it does happen in the areas where we have lots of clover mixed in with the grass and I have more PTO hp available than you do.