New and Looking Hard at LS

[suzy]

Not much of a tractor person, but the Canadian ones might have one extra remote and also would (hopefully) come with some sort of winterizing package involving a block heater at least and who knows what else-I will inquire when I meet the dealer next week why the difference in price.

Vehicles in general cost more up here, so maybe it's a part of the cost of doing business in Canada. Should be cheaper transport to here as BC is closer to Korea than you guys!

 

[Gary Fowler]

I havent checked the exchange rate lately, but I am sure that has something to do with it and likely as you said it should have a block heater installed and maybe even a battery blanket heater but those 2 items should not add more than $500 to the price. Import duties may also be higher in Canada.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I just checked the exchange rate and it is 99.4 cent Canadian to $1 USD so that is not the issue. Suzy, I think you need to ask the dealer to explain his pricing or check another dealer.

 

[Gary Fowler]

Suzy, maybe you should PM Greggsm33 and see what he paid for his. And I am sure the Canadian ones are built the same with the same features. I think I had put in one of my posts that my tractor had only 2 remotes, but that is incorrect, it also has 3 and looking at the layout, that is the maximum that can be installed in the console. I think the dealer just priced them higher, but Gregg should be able to confirm his pricing.

 

[Putter]

The dollar is moving to par so we in Canada are seeing a lot better pricing. There is always duties and taxes for us to deal with here that make things cost more. The dealer I am talking to seems to spec his units for Canadian weather with a block heater and I forget what else but he seems to be a no nonsense guy that knows what you need to have for Canadian winters. I am looking for a i3040 so can't speak to the 7030 pricing but you may see the price come down a bit with the dollar rising. Keep in mind the dealer probably ordered these units a while back and is underwater right now on the exchange rate. There seems to be no incentive pricing like new trucks have right now the price is the price especially with a limited network so far in Canada. Like buying something from Apple computers. It is what it is.

 

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HELLO 4DFARM I ALSO HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT TRACTORS ,ACTUAL ABOUT 2 YEARS (KIDS IN COLLAGE) AND AFTER LOOKING AT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING OUT THERE I ALSO HAVE DECIDED ON A LS MACHINE FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU MENTIONED. WARRANTY, FEATURES, SERVICE, PRICE, AND PARTS. LS HAS BUILT A PARTS DISTRIBUTION CENTER IN ONE OF THE CAROLINIAS MY DEALER TOLD ME THAT MOST PARTS IF NOT IN STOCK WOULD TAKE A COUPLE DAYS TO REACH HIS DEALERSHIP IAM LOOKING AT A 4020 WITH FEL TILLER FORKS AND A BOX BLADE TO BE PURCHASED IN MAY. HOPE THIS HAS HELPED. AT LEAST SOME MORAL SUPORT

 

[4DFARM]

Hey Avatar....glad to meet another slow decision maker like myself...ha! I too have a daughter who started college this year...and another right behind that about the time she graduates...sounds like you and I have a lot in common...my dilemma right now is primarily the exact model to get...the 4020 is definitely in the hunt for me in the LS line also...I saw an add at RCO Tractor in Texas for an R4020, with mower, FEL, and blade for $21,937...which is a pretty awsome price out the gate.....Most of my price/feature comparison to date was on the utility models (LS U5020/5030 and P7010C to JD, MF, Kubota, Kioti, Tym, Deutz Fahr)...so, I'm trying to get some compact comparisons to the 4020 at the moment which should enable me to make a final decision on which model (compact vs. utility). When you decide to switch the hp/size of a tractor, after having done the research, you almost start completely over again. Have you gotten some prices on the 4020 in your area, if so, what are they telling you? I got a price on the 4010 (just because my dealer didn't have a 4020) for $18,500 with FEL. Is the 4010 on the same platform/chasis as the 4020 with just a little bigger motor, or are they are different chasis? I did get a price on a Kubota 4400 (45hp) with FEL from the Kubota Build my Tractor site, and it gave me a price of almost 30K..and that had no other equipment. Now, I'm not sure if that price really reflects what a dealer would sell the tractor for....that's something I'm checking on at the moment.

By the way, with regard to Gary and Suzy's comments on remotes, I'm pretty certain that the R and U models have two standard sets of remotes, and the P models have three......Interestingly, I'm currently borrowing my business partner's Kubota 3240 with FEL and 4WD to do some work around my place, and i was looking at it, it has no remotes whatsoever. On kubota, the remotes are extra, to the tune of about $1500 per pair is what I was quoted on the M5040, while they are standard on LS. An interesting side note, I also discovered that LS doesn't make 2WD models...guess they figure that's a waste of time and they can offer 4WD models at a price that is competitive with 2WD models. For instance, Mahindra offers some really good deals, usually in packages, in my area, but they are always 2WD...the 4WD are substantially more...Just thought that was an interesting fact.

 

[gregsm33]

suzy,

Canadian price for 7010C in New Brunswick anyway was $42,999, but I paid $39,999, Dec.2009, but I have seen them advertised last week here for $39,999.

A block heater was included in this price. Tractor works awesome and I have a 84" blower and it will fire wet snow half way to the moon.LOL (we just got dumped with 40cm's 3 days ago).

Hope this helps.

 

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HEY 4DFARM...GLAD TO HERE BACK FROM YA. I JUST GOT MY SON THROUGH 4YR OF COLLAGE AND WILL HAVE MY DAUGHTER STARTING IN TWO YEARS (ITS MY GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO STRIKE ON A NEW TRACTOR).LIKE YOURSELF I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING TRACTORS FOR A COUPLE YEARS MOSTLY THE THE BIG 3, KUBOTA, JD, AND NH AND YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING CHANGING WHEN YOU JUMP PLATFORMS AND HP...I ALSO HAVE LOOKED AT BOTH THE COMPACT AND UTILITY LS TRACTORS AND FOR ME THE COMPACT 4020 OR 4010 IS A GOOD FIT BOTH IN SIZE AND PRICE . BOTH THE 4020 AND 4010 ARE THE SAME PLATFORM BEING THE LARGEST OF THE COMPACT SIZE TRACTORS... I WAS AFRAID THAT THE LARGER UTILITY SIZE WOULD BE TO DIFFICULT TO MANEUVER AROUND OUR 200 A. WOODS...THE PRICE I WAS QUOTED LAST FALL FOR A 4020 HYDRO WITH FEL WAS AROUND 22,000 MY DEALER DID CALL ME ON DECEMBER 1 TO TELL ME THAT THEIR WAS GOING TO BE A 7% INCREASE AFTER THE 1ST OF THE YEAR, WHICH IS STILL A LOT CHEAPER THEN THE 4400 KUBOTA WITH NO REMOTES (I ALSO PRICED THE 4400 OUT...WOW) ... THERE IS WEB SIGHT FOR LS AT LS Tractor USA THEY HAVE ALL THE SPEC ON ALL THERE TRACTORS...I'AM SOLD ON THE LS LINE AND HAVE A GREAT DEALER THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 35 YEARS WHICH I FEEL IS VERY IMPORTANT AND HOPE TO BE PULLING THE TRIGGER IN MAY...HOPING THE SAME FOR YOU.....

 

[mojoinco]

Well, not much knowledgeable on the LS, but as I recall they make at least one model for: NH, Kioti, McCormick, and Montana (the green models).

If you can figure out the details (drive train, loaders, and hydraulics) you can probably do a good job of comparing apples to oranges. Likely at least one of the other brands has a similar model (maybe even find a good deal on one of the alternate brands).

I use the analogy when comparing compacts to utility tractors: 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton pick ups. It's harder to break a 3/4 ton, but you don't get as nice a ride or maybe quite the maneuverability of the 1/2 ton.

What ever you get, you will like it, regardless of what you decide you must have the next time. Work a deal for the remotes -- even if you think they are not necessary (top and tilt, grapple, hydraulic post hole digger, etc, all sound pretty nice after you get to thinking about it). Then consider swinging blade (offset, etc). A cab is especially nice to have a top and tilt on (you can't reach back and make fine adjusts from the seat).