I don't have horses so i cant speak to the tragedy waiting to happen. I use barb wire, 4 or 5 strands along the road, and the same on any creek crossings. other than that 2 hot strands will work. I have mine in a temporary pasture right now with just fiberglass posts and the rope type wire with the occasional t post for line post and corners. Some say it doesn't work that great, but the visibility of it along with it being easy to roll back up and move (i use drop cord reels from walmart) and the grown ones will stay in it with just one strand.
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Thanks for the explanation...
Seems barbed in this area for horses could generate a visit from cruelty to animal folks when it comes to horses... guess it is because the area is rather affluent and my brothers place is what is left from an old pioneer homestead...
Some of the fancy places have all welded pipe fencing that stretch as far as one can see... others use the ribbon or rope electric for horses...
With the extreme fire danger in this part of California it only seems like a few grazing animals would keep the growth in check...
I've been tempted to show up with a couple calfs to get him started!
Seems barbed in this area for horses could generate a visit from cruelty to animal folks when it comes to horses... guess it is because the area is rather affluent and my brothers place is what is left from an old pioneer homestead...
Some of the fancy places have all welded pipe fencing that stretch as far as one can see... others use the ribbon or rope electric for horses...
With the extreme fire danger in this part of California it only seems like a few grazing animals would keep the growth in check...
I've been tempted to show up with a couple calfs to get him started!
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We have lots of those fancy welded pipe fences in this area, but I grew up in the days when all we had was 3 or 4 strand barbed wire for a milk cow and a horse. Fortunately, neither was ever hurt by the barbed wire.
If you show up with calves he'll have no choice but to start fencing. Keeping the land clean is part of why I have cattle, keeping my grandparents land up is kinda my duty I'd say, and rather than bushhogging repeatedly, I push back woodline and fence and the cows keep things cleaned up. I have a few fainting goats for cleaning the briar thickets up.
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i have used barb wire on cattle with no problems. Horse are dumber and would cut themselves on it.
I had calves that would go through four strands of barb wire to get to empty pasture on the other side.
I had a neighbor with fence so old that it blew down during wind storms. Her cows and calves only got out if she did not put fence backup
I had calves that would go through four strands of barb wire to get to empty pasture on the other side.
I had a neighbor with fence so old that it blew down during wind storms. Her cows and calves only got out if she did not put fence backup
I'm one who hates barbed wire...apparently it's a handy tool for those using it. If it's a working fence I imagine the animals get accustomed to it. Around here it's still working long after the farm has returned to trees... in bits and pieces. I've seen dogs shred their legs on it, and evidence where moose and deer got caught up in it. Run over a length with a piece of equipment and it can rise Cain with bearings, u-joints, and other parts. The orchard I prune was surrounded years ago with two tiers of two strand sheep fence topped with barbed wire... The sheep fence has long ago rotted away but the barbed wire still hangs 8feet above the ground... except where it sags down to about throat height.
Every tool properly used has it's purpose though, so I'll end this rant.
If it's a working fence I imagine the animals get accustomed to it.
Every tool properly used has it's purpose though, so I'll end this rant.
If it's a working fence I imagine the animals get accustomed to it.
I'm one who hates barbed wire...apparently it's a handy tool for those using it. If it's a working fence I imagine the animals get accustomed to it. Around here it's still working long after the farm has returned to trees... in bits and pieces. I've seen dogs shred their legs on it, and evidence where moose and deer got caught up in it. Run over a length with a piece of equipment and it can rise Cain with bearings, u-joints, and other parts. The orchard I prune was surrounded years ago with two tiers of two strand sheep fence topped with barbed wire... The sheep fence has long ago rotted away but the barbed wire still hangs 8feet above the ground... except where it sags down to about throat height.
Every tool properly used has it's purpose though, so I'll end this rant.
If it's a working fence I imagine the animals get accustomed to it.
Every tool properly used has it's purpose though, so I'll end this rant.
If it's a working fence I imagine the animals get accustomed to it.
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When we lived on 10 acres in Navarro County, I didn't have any cattle, but we did have a 4 strand barbed wire fence all the way around the pasture. A neighbor had cattle and I let them use our pasture. He had no horses and one day when he hired a local cowboy with a horse to move some of his cattle, they learned that cattle that have never seen a man on horseback are easily spooked. At one time, the cowboy was chasing a half grown calf and both calf and horse were running flat out, and that calf went right through our 4 strand barbed wire fence and continued across our place without slowing down or breaking stride. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. And I inspected the fence and found no visible damage at all.
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As kids we would help bring the cows to and from the barn for milking... only a single strand of electric wire... Grandparents did not have a single length of barb wire anywhere on their 40 acre farm...
Still remember one of the cow started chasing my 5 year old brother across the pasture as everyone was stunned...
He had a stick of about 4' long and stopped and turned around and hit the cow so hard across the head the stick broke into pieces... stopped the cow right in her tracks... I guess some kids can be fearless...
Also remember when the bull was going out the first time in Spring... was really a handful and reared up and got his horns tangled in the electric fence wire that was running overhead from the barn to pasture... never seen anything like it... the animal was wild and we made a beeline out of there... only by cutting the wire was the bull calmed...
Still remember one of the cow started chasing my 5 year old brother across the pasture as everyone was stunned...
He had a stick of about 4' long and stopped and turned around and hit the cow so hard across the head the stick broke into pieces... stopped the cow right in her tracks... I guess some kids can be fearless...
Also remember when the bull was going out the first time in Spring... was really a handful and reared up and got his horns tangled in the electric fence wire that was running overhead from the barn to pasture... never seen anything like it... the animal was wild and we made a beeline out of there... only by cutting the wire was the bull calmed...
