Buying Advice New CK10's

TJP89 · Jul 3, 2015

aledobud said:
I noticed today that the CK10 specs are on Kioti's website. Looking at the specs and photos, if looks like these are the differences from the CK's. Separated HST pedals instead of one, single brake pedal instead of two. Doesn't mention, so one would assume there is no differential lock, no tilt steering, and no MLS valve. Optional instead of standard is, cruise control, telescopic lower link, lift rod kit. Hopefully the differential lock and MLS valve are just omissions from the spec sheet and I'm not looking at the photo of the HST cockpit correctly as far as the brake pedals. All those features I would really want.

You might be looking at the gear pictures, Kioti has crossed up their pictures online before. Then you would be looking at the 2 brakes, not the HST, pedals, and a clutch. The MLS valve was never mentioned, and the dif lock is probably an omission. Disappointed about the non standard 3 point goodies and cruise. Those were a big selling point for me.

TJP89 · Jul 3, 2015

After looking at the site it appears aledobud is correct on the pedals. Elsewhere they have taken a turn for the worse. About 600 lbs lighter, 200lbs less 3 point capacity, less standard features. But more loader capacity, slight boost in engine and PTO HP, and some sort of eHST. Whether cruise is standard is unclear as it is listed as both standard and optional. The rear remote options seem better too.

mecan · Jul 3, 2015

The 2510 on kiotis website doesn't mention 4wd or diff lock either but I just came back from the dealer. Didn't think about them being closed for the holiday weekend. It does have a 4wd levered and a small pedal/lever by were your left heel would go, would assume that's the diff lock. If they would have them on the 25 I couldn't imagine not putting them on the 35&40. Not sure what the MLS is though. Still new, didn't start reading this forum or even consider buying a ride on mower let alone a tractor until last August when we started looking at our current house.

TJP89 · Jul 3, 2015

mecan said:
The 2510 on kiotis website doesn't mention 4wd or diff lock either but I just came back from the dealer. Didn't think about them being closed for the holiday weekend. It does have a 4wd levered and a small pedal/lever by were your left heel would go, would assume that's the diff lock. If they would have them on the 25 I couldn't imagine not putting them on the 35&40. Not sure what the MLS is though. Still new, didn't start reading this forum or even consider buying a ride on mower let alone a tractor until last August when we started looking at our current house.

The 2510 is a SCUT and a little different from the bigger CK10s. Same was true with the old CK20. The 2510 has been around a little longer too.

engine29 · Jul 3, 2015

The CK2510 was new for last year, so it will be as is for a while. The new CK3510 and 4010 are the last new models to be introduced as replacements for tier 3. There will be a couple of other additions in the fall.
The CK2510 (and CK 20) is not a subcompact class tractor by industry definition, it is a regular compact. The CS2410 is a sub, just like the BX Kubotas and the Deere 1000 series. The CK2510 compares w/ the B series and the 2000 series Deere.

Laurence2 · Jul 8, 2015

engine29 said:
The CK2510 was new for last year, so it will be as is for a while. The new CK3510 and 4010 are the last new models to be introduced as replacements for tier 3. There will be a couple of other additions in the fall. . . . <SNIP>

Hi engine29. You've been right on the mark. And thanks for the info on the CK2510, so no new updates for it for a while. :-( Any projections as to which other CK models will be reworked and joining the CK10 series this Fall? Such as the CK20S HST, perhaps?

regards,
Laurence

engine29 · Jul 8, 2015

Stay tuned in the fall, a couple more additions possible, can't elaborate.

Amvcane · Jul 9, 2015

Was at the dealer the other day and he was showing me how the CK2510 is a detuned CK27 engine mounted to a CK20 trans and rear. I haven't driven one, but he said that the larger engine power and displacement makes the two range HST much more capable. Also larger higher flow hydro pump was added.
Not an option yet, but a mid PTO and MMM will be available next year.

Hdoilcan · Jul 9, 2015

Amvcane said:
Was at the dealer the other day and he was showing me how the CK2510 is a detuned CK27 engine mounted to a CK20 trans and rear. I haven't driven one, but he said that the larger engine power and displacement makes the two range HST much more capable. Also larger higher flow hydro pump was added.
Not an option yet, but a mid PTO and MMM will be available next year.

A dealer was tell me they usually have thier yearly dealer meeting I believe in July but was moved to the fall. Its been about two months ago he told me so I don't remember exact months he mentioned. Anyways the mmm will be introduced at the meeting and available after that. He said he was told that by his rep.
Just wish they had added the "M" range.

TJP89 · Jul 9, 2015

Laurence2 said:
Hi engine29. You've been right on the mark. And thanks for the info on the CK2510, so no new updates for it for a while. :-( Any projections as to which other CK models will be reworked and joining the CK10 series this Fall? Such as the CK20S HST, perhaps?

regards,
Laurence

The CK20 now replaced by the CS2410 and CK2510, both o of which are now available.