mjncad
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Whas dee matter? We tie down loads like thees all dee time in Messyco.
Or that's how Wal-Martians tie down their loads.
Or that's how Wal-Martians tie down their loads.
New equipment tie down....
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From looking at the machine I don't think this person cares one way or the other. In NY if it is not secured in all 4 corners you will be looking at a ticket. Maybe he thought the strap was a ribbon and he was just gift rapping it 
Besides the lack of secure bindings, that trailer is a light duty car or landscape trailer, not really designed for that type of load. I have seen similar knuckleheads tooling down the road, I think the worst one I saw was a Mahindra 4510 cab tractor on a trailer like that with the bucket up so the rear scraper box would clear the taillights....and bound down with one strap.
Qapla
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I have a friend with a skid-steer that he used to load on his flatbed and just drive to the next job. He did that for many years without problems.
The State decided to enact and regulate stricter tie-down laws and he decided he should tie down his skid-steer.
He had a heavy piece of steel welded across the front edge that sits on a slight angle. This allows him to pull his machine all the way forward, locking the front bucket under the steel lip. It does not cover the entire bucket, only the blade on the bottom edge, but it holds it very secure.
He then uses a chain on each side pulling from the side near the back of the machine forward to cleats on the trailer that he uses binders on. This pulls the machine tighter into the cleat on the front blade.
His machine is secure and legal and has the advantage of being much quicker to load/unload.
The State decided to enact and regulate stricter tie-down laws and he decided he should tie down his skid-steer.
He had a heavy piece of steel welded across the front edge that sits on a slight angle. This allows him to pull his machine all the way forward, locking the front bucket under the steel lip. It does not cover the entire bucket, only the blade on the bottom edge, but it holds it very secure.
He then uses a chain on each side pulling from the side near the back of the machine forward to cleats on the trailer that he uses binders on. This pulls the machine tighter into the cleat on the front blade.
His machine is secure and legal and has the advantage of being much quicker to load/unload.
Treemonkey1000
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That's his version of the "truckers knot" for that strap so that makes it legal. :laughing: Looks like an Axeman candidate there.
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Big Bri; I'm proud of! :thumbsup: Cause when you took the pictures you were at a red light!
Edit I'm going to not look at the trailer tires in the 3rd picture! OPPS!
Edit I'm going to not look at the trailer tires in the 3rd picture! OPPS!
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Big Bri; I'm proud of! :thumbsup: Cause when you took the pictures you were at a red light!
Edit I'm going to not look at the trailer tires in the 3rd picture! OPPS!
I was at a light when i took the first two but my daughter took the third. to tell you the troth she took the first shot as we passed and when we got to the next light i took the second two. i hate talking on my phone when i drive, much less taking pic's. (not that i haven't done it in the past) but i would never take a pic with my kid in the car as i don't want to teach her any of my bad habits.
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What's the weight of a T-190? somewhere in the neighborhood of 7800 to 8000 pounds right? That's about 4 times the weight of that utility trailer, maybe more. So that's roughly 10K being pulled by that F-250 and it looks like the weight distribution might be a bit heavy on the ball.
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i see that all the time here.. a skidsteer on a landscape trialer.. usually no tie downs, and it parked unevenly on a pile of limbs.. or pulled too far front or rear.
at least that one had a 3" strap on it.. somewhere...
at least that one had a 3" strap on it.. somewhere...
Artisan
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Oh man... Thumper and Bambi wouldn't approve either I bet! :thumbsup:
A T-190 weighs 7775 lbs or 8200 lbs w/ roller suspension, plus 28 gallons of diesel at what, 6# a gallon?
So if it is roller suspension w/ a full load of fuel = 8368 Lbs.
3500 axles x 2 = 7000 minus what, 1400 for the trailer? So a trailer payload of 5600#, so 8368-5600= 2768 Pounds overweight or almost 50% of the axle capacity overweight.
THE TRUCK= GVWR Maximum 9600, The weight of the truck, assumng it is a 2010 model year = Curb Weight MT = 6092, plus 28 gallons of fuel at 6 = 168 + driver maybe 200# = 3140 pounds of cargo and trailer.
Tow Capacity (Maximum) 12500
Truck = 6092
Truck Fuel = 168?
Driver = 200
Trailer = 1400 ?
T-190 = 8368
T-190 Fuel = 168?
Misc stuff = 104
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16500 on the hoof.
-Tow Capacity (Maximum) 12500
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TWO TON OVER, or 4000 POUNDS OVER on the GCVW
and 2768 Pounds OVER on the trailer.
