New fence to keep people out

   / New fence to keep people out #71  
Think about making or finding signs saying something like:

"RESTRICTED AREA, Do Not Enter, Pesticide Contamination. CROPS INEDIBLE"
and put a skull and crossbones on them.

Professional made signs would be best especially if they had the name of the authorities on them (Department of Natural Resources) or something similar.

For some reason around here the words "Restricted Area - Do Not Enter" deter more people than "no trespassing" not sure why.

Regards,

Jim
 
   / New fence to keep people out #72  
OK, ilex..... understand, 4 barb wires already in place. I typically like to do least work for most effect.

Thus, suggest you leave 4 barb there, add signs.
Determine effect... while applying the random shotgun and factual confrontation approach. Cost of 4 wire fence has already been spent... add in line fence rachets if you discover that you need to tighten the barb wires frequently.

If you determine that more deterrent is needed, add 1 strand of hot wire inside existing fence... that is, on your side of the property line.

There are electric stand off insulators that are about 1 foot long that can be attached to T posts or wood posts and hold the wire away from the fence. Use the in line rachets for the hot wire and pull it tight...

The result will place a double obstacle for the adventurous... getting thru the fence AND around the electric wire. If you discover that it becomes a common practice to simply ground out the wire, then consider removing 1 or more wires in proximity to the electric wire.... however, you may at this point be reaching the limit of what can be achieved, regardless of fence configuration.

To answer your question specifically, yes, I was recommending a single strand of electric wire from which signs would hang, and a strand of barb a few inches off the ground, which would make rolling under the wire somewhat difficult and painful. Now that I understand that cost of 4 wires is already done, the only other thing I can recommend beyond signs is a single electric wire. Plus crazy acting and hunting activity and video of all trespassers to show the judge.

I don't recommend the brave bulls or cows approach... typically such animals are unspecific and unpredictable in their behavior... a person who knows how to read a bovine will be undeterred...even consider it a challenge. Often, cattle will move away from an unfamiliar person. If you are talking about fighting animals, when I was in Spain I saw some yearling fighting bulls in a pasture. when I stopped the car and got out to take a look...and they were 200 plus yards away, they became extremely wary and shortly ran away and over the hill. So, I anticipate that such animals would simply cause YOU problems and not do anything to address the trespassing issue. A dog could be a different story, depending on how dog is trained...

I think you are on the only path available... persevere and
 
   / New fence to keep people out
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#73  
I like that better. Wires on existing fence are quite new, so it would be sad to take them down and throw them away. I'll leave them. I'll replace corner posts with good wood posts with struts. I'll also add strainer posts were needed. That will allow to keep proper tension on all wires. Right now there are no structs or anything, just iron angle posts, so it's imposible to properly tension the fence, and wires get moved around.

I like the idea of adding one hot wire behind the barbed wires, that will offer some extra protection to those. I also find that current height is too low, I can step over. With the hot wire behind it will look passable, but will be tricky to do so. I'll add one hot on top, making it higher, that way it won't look passable. You'll have to cut, or climb to get in. That's an extra mental level.
 
   / New fence to keep people out #74  
I can't imagine a 4 wire fence that one can easily step over...but I guess there was some method there.

Yes, fence should be sufficiently high to prevent a simple step over by average height person...

suggest you FIRST get all your corners in order...best technique is to have a wire attached to the top of each end corner post and running to a buried "dead man" in the ground.... pulling top back into line, counter to the pull of the fence wires... put a ratchet in this wire and you can maintain counter tension easily.

This is the ratchet I mean
Wire Strainer - 3601180 | Tractor Supply Company

you will need a handle
Strainer Crank Handle - 3601198 | Tractor Supply Company

this insulated tubing is extremely handy
Insulator Tubing, 50 ft. Coil - 3601279 | Tractor Supply Company

you can use either high tensile barb or smooth wire, whichever you like.
Smooth is easiest to install and it slides thru all the insulators easily when needed. Barb is difficult to work, does not slide thru insulators.

I use this smooth wire
High Tensile Wire, 12-1/2 ga., 4,000 ft. Coil - 3601326 | Tractor Supply Company

This wire twisting tool is my right hand tool
Wire Twisting Tool - 3601237 | Tractor Supply Company

handy wire cutter
Wire Cutter - 3601376 | Tractor Supply Company

this underground wire can be buried under gates or for when going thru a metal area where shorting is a high risk.
Underground Wire, 200 ft. - 3601287 | Tractor Supply Company

this type fence charger is what I mean... do NOT use one with less specs than this one..I prefer the 200 mile one, but it's not in the catalogue.
Zareba Low Impedance 100 Mile Fencer - 3604497 | Tractor Supply Company

lots of insulators to choose from.
Tractor Supply Company - Electric Fence Insulators

I'm not associated with TSC in any way but I do use these products because their store is close and prices there are OK.

This should keep you busy for a while! :)Good luck!
 

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