New guy with a question...

[Burntime]

I have always had the simplicity sovereign gardent tractor...I want a 4x4 Kubota and will add a snowblower to it. One big plus would be to get a 3 point that would be able to lift a 4x5ft pallet 5ft high with green oak. I burn wood to heat my home and if I could just lift a pallet with the 3 point and set it by the house it would save a tremendouse amount of handling. Which model would do this? A cord of oak is 5000 pds, so I am guessing 2 ton. It is probably 3000 to 3500 pounds dry. Is this a dream? Even if I would have to stack smaller and more pallets it would be ok... Any help is appreciated. I am looking for approx amounts and what machine may be best for me. I am thinking a B7400 or larger but unsure of the 3 point capacity...

 

[crbr]

You can look at the specs here for each series tractor. I see none in the B series that are capable of a 2000 pound lift at the lift point or 24" behind the lift point.

Kubota Tractor USA - Tractors and Accessories

 

[framer]

Welcome to tbn. Did you mean front end loader?Sound like you need fork lift
for that much weight that high.Most small tractors max out about 500 to 1500
pounds.My B7800 800lbs.

 

[Bird]

As the other guys said, I think you'll have to go all the way up to the M series Kubotas to get a 3-point that will lift that much weight. And even then, I don't think you'll find one that will lift a pallet that high. I believe you need to be considering forklift forks on a front end loader.

 

[RadarTech]

I think the guys are right here..
A FEL with a forks would be the best bet, but loading up 2000-3000 lbs is not likely on a CUT...

I think a palletized solution with forks would be the best bet..

another helpful item here might be your budget.
What can you spend?

Later,
J

 

[crazyal]

I think you're over reaching trying to move that much wood in one shot. You're best bet would be to get a set of forks for the 3pt hitch. As long as you don't need to lift the pallet too high you'll be able to carry more weight than with the fel. Even then 4000lbs is a lot of weight.

Even if you were to split that load in half I think you would need a tractor like a Grand L. Probably wouldn't hurt to have a load of dirt or something else in the fel otherwise you may not be able to steer.

Another option would be to use a trailer. It would allow you to go with a much smaller tractor. As much as I would love to help you spend your money on a large tractor it doesn't sound like you would be moving enough wood to justify the cost.

As for a snow blower your two options are front or rear mounted. Rear is much cheaper but requires you to look backwards to use it. A front mount would require a center PTO or an aftermarket blower that can be driven off of the rear PTO.

 

[Altex]

Welcome Burntime!

Here's an option. Use your tractor for snow and other stuff and get an All Terrain Pallet Jack to lift/move your wood?

All Terrain Pallet Jack

This PJ has an "Optional Tow Bar" package. Not sure what that really is, but maybe you can tow it with a ball on the drawbar of the tractor. The PJ is $704 and Optional Tow Bar package is $178.71.

 

[Burntime]

Sorry for the delay, I had forgotten my password and computer crashed. I had my buddy look at the info and the b7600 will lift about 1500. He said I could shim the relief valve to get a little more like maybe 2000-2200 pounds. That would give me better then half a pallet. It would be 4x5x2 to 2 1/2 feet tall. Will the rear 3 point lift say 30-36 inches? As far as budget, I would like to buy used and guess in the 10-12k range? Looking for about 5ft front snowblower and belly mower deck. Fel would be nice or could add later down the road. Am I all wet?

 

[radair]

...Am I all wet?

Yes.....

 

[ChuckinNH]

Here's a photo of what a B7610, or the new B2x20 series can realistically lift with the 3 pt. It is still a lot more than I want to lift without a tractor, and will make short work of a pretty good sized pile.

 

[Burntime]

Yes.....

On price or capacity of lift or all 3?

 

[dodge man]

As far as price goes, you can get a fairly low hour BX series tractor for that price, and maybe a B series, but not much bigger. If you get something with some high hours, you might be able to get into a L series, but I'm not sure.

As far as lifting that big a load with the 3 pt, it tends to tilt the load as you lift it, and it just won't lift it very high. I have seen setups for sale that will hook up to the back of a tractor to turn the 3 point into a fork lift, but I think these setups are for larger tractors, and I'm not sure of the cost. Maybe someone else will chime in on that idea.

I think you just need to stick to the forks on a endloader bucket, or just using the bucket on its own. I don't know how you move the wood now, but it beats the heck out of a wheel barrow.

 

[flusher]

I have always had the simplicity sovereign gardent tractor...I want a 4x4 Kubota and will add a snowblower to it. One big plus would be to get a 3 point that would be able to lift a 4x5ft pallet 5ft high with green oak. I burn wood to heat my home and if I could just lift a pallet with the 3 point and set it by the house it would save a tremendouse amount of handling. Which model would do this? A cord of oak is 5000 pds, so I am guessing 2 ton. It is probably 3000 to 3500 pounds dry. Is this a dream? Even if I would have to stack smaller and more pallets it would be ok... Any help is appreciated. I am looking for approx amounts and what machine may be best for me. I am thinking a B7400 or larger but unsure of the 3 point capacity...

A B7400 is a tiny tractor (16 hp engine, 12.5 hp pto) with 1356 lb of lift at the 3pt hitch pins. No way that tractor can lift 3000 lb 5ft high on the 3pt. My first tractor was a 2005 Kubota B7510HST (21 hp engine, 17 hp pto) with the LA302 FEL (about 800 lb lift at the bucket pins). It could lift about 1350 lb on the 3pt to about 3-ft height.

My current tractor is a 2008 Mahindra 5525 (54 hp engine, 45 hp pto) with the ML-250 FEL (2980 lb lift at the bucket pins to 10 ft height). The 3pt can lift 3525 lb at the pins to about 3.5 ft height. This will give you an idea of the size tractor you'll need to handle that load of oak.

 

[cheesehead]

I think the pile is 5 feet high, not that you want to lift it 5 feet high, right? If lifting height is not the issue, you'll always get more lifting capability out of the 3 pt. hitch. It's closer to the tractor so the moment of inertia with a pallet on the forks will also be in your favor on the 3 pt. With a bucket full of dirt on the front we may be surprised at how much you can carry.

 

[Burntime]

I was looking at say b7600? B7500? or bigger I think. Iven if I get the pallet to say 30 inchs of wood and double stack them to 60 inchs I would be happy with that! A cord of wood is like 3500 dry oak. 30 x 4ftx4ft is a face cord or a third of a cord. Thats 1150 or so dry without the pallet weight and probably 15-1600 wet. That would work! Now what model would you guys suggest? Is the b series the way to go or a bx of some flavor?

 

[Burntime]

Anyone?

 

[cheesehead]

You're looking at moving and lifting weight, to do that the heavier the tractor the better you'll do. If you're selcting between a B and BX, the B is heavier and is the better choice. The choices in order of highest to lowest would be an M, Grand L, L, B and then BX. As other people on this thread have pointed out, lift capacity is also a consideration. The 3 point hitch will lift more than the loader but it can't lift it as high. You'll find the same progression of lift capability with the Kubota line that I indicated above. It's all about how much you're willing to pay to get capability. Bear in mind that buying too small will be more costly than buying more capability up front. You may want to consider the great financing available on new tractors as you can buy a lot of tractor and spread the cost over time at 0% financing.

You should also consider having your tires filled as this will make the tractor more stable and safer. Good luck.

 

[Burntime]

That makes sense. Problem is I want to be able to mow the lawn and snowblow with it. I am only dealing with an acre so I don't want to spend 16k to move wood, would not make economic sense to save by burning to buy that much toy. So am I correct that the b7500 to b7800 would best fit the bill? I am asking because I have not run one. I have run a larger kubota and have simplicity tractors but the diesel is a whole new class.

 

[cheesehead]

What you just posted begins to drive things in a whole new direction. Think about sizing your wood carrying chore to the machine you buy, rather than having the wood carrying drive the machine you buy. Mowing a lawn can be done by an array of tractors, but the bigger the tractor, the worse the manueverability and soil compaction. Because of this, the BX is the best tractor for mowing the acreage you describe as well as snow removal.

Diesels love to run at full throttle for long periods of time, have tremendous torque and are easy on fuel. My L3130 is my first diesel and it has given me great service.

 

[FarmNut]

That makes sense. Problem is I want to be able to mow the lawn and snowblow with it. I am only dealing with an acre so I don't want to spend 16k to move wood, would not make economic sense to save by burning to buy that much toy. So am I correct that the b7500 to b7800 would best fit the bill? I am asking because I have not run one. I have run a larger kubota and have simplicity tractors but the diesel is a whole new class.

Sounds like you are trying to find a good compromise tractor for different jobs. That is what I was looking for and ended up with a B7510HSD. I haven't mowed with it yet, but I received responses from a lot of other B series owners that were pretty happy with the quality of mowing that the 60" MMM gave them. I feel pretty certain that I'm not going to get the cut quality of a BX, but I have a tractor that will provide me with more capabilties for other things. I think if you compromise on your wood stack size, the B7510 may be a good compromise for you as well. You can still find some new ones on some dealers lots even though this model has been phased out and you can get the 0% financing. Otherwise, you can find some pretty good deals on used equipment.