New Holland TL Loaders

[dgl24087]

I had an opportunity to see one of the new 820TL loaders for the New Holland tractors. The mounting system for the bucket, as well as other attachments, is very similar to the new "Global Carrier" set up on the new JD xx3 series loaders. Unless someone makes a skid steer type adapter, none of the old attachments will fit.

 

[joes_427_vette]

It seems the former loader manufacturer for New Holland found out the new series is being built by another company. They immediately quit making loaders for them which caused a huge shortage. My 55 has been built since Oct. 18 and is awaiting a tl series loader. A check today indicated it could be another month or so before it is shipped. By the way the factory is mounting the loaders.

 

[IH3444]

I'm suprised that the "former" loader mfger stopped making loaders. Would seem that they were under a contract with NH to deliver a set amount of loaders for that contract, plus not to mention idleing their loader line, with possible layoffs of workers. I'm for one very happy I have the skid steer QA. Makes for more universal atachments available. The sole source QA like Deere limits you to what is available to you, in addition to having to purchase their "fit only" attachments. Fabricating your own attachments maybe complicated by the new unique NH QA system. Now with the older QA skidsteer system, blanks can be purchased, and welded to adapt your own attachments. Can hardly wait to see the new loaders at the dealer and look to see where they shaved corners, ummm I mean took cost saving measures.......The easier on-off loader mount is not needed by me, I need my loader on altime. Interesting that NH changed from a real world winner of a QA, to another configuration. Can't wait to finally see the new ones.

 

[Doc_Bob]

I'm suprised that the "former" loader mfger stopped making loaders. Would seem that they were under a contract with NH to deliver a set amount of loaders for that contract, plus not to mention idleing their loader line, with possible layoffs of workers.

My thoughts exactly. I think the story may have more to it.
Bob

 

[IH3444]

Totally agree Doc!

 

[dgl24087]

I think it's likely a case of the original contract expiring and the new loaders just taking longer for to get into the system than anticipated. As for the loader attachment mounts, they are the new ISO standard for loaders. It actually does look simple, a square tube or bar on the bottom of the loader and a round tube or bar on the top, attachments have hooks on top and bottom. The loader has a single lever lock mechanism to lock the attachment into position. The Deere xx3 series loaders have the identical attachment system. The NH loaders are manufactured by ALO/Quicke, and are a very impressive loader. My local NH dealer confirmed this, he is an ALO/Quicke dealer as well, over 20 years in business.

 

[dknarnd]

As for the loader attachment mounts, they are the new ISO standard for loaders.

What does this mean if you go and buy an attachment for your loader..you have to ask for the ISO spec.? I am new to loaders and want to get a quick attach grapple for my loader.

 

[dgl24087]

From JD website, best explanation I have seen. The JD latching mechanism appears to be more usere friendly than that of NH.

"The global carrier conforms to ISO standard DIS23206. Although the design fully meets the standard, it is a unique John Deere design. As most manufacturers now meet the ISO standard, it is expected that this ISO standard will quickly become the industry norm for carriers.


Features include:

The handle for latching is on the left hand side of the loader to save time when unhooking attachments
The latching mechanism is on the carrier, eliminating the need to buy latches for every attachment used
The carrier is compatible with any competitor attachments that conform to the ISO standard
The carrier is composed of a rigid bottom square tube and a solid top bar; this creates a strong structure to reduce twisting if only one hook is mistakenly engaged while connecting an attachment
The top bar of the global carrier is cold drawn for improved wear resistance"

 

[IH3444]

Sounds good, but when you mention John Deere it starts to sound expensive.........many a skid steer have the now discontinued QA system. Is NH going to change them over also to the newer ISO system? Your grapple? In those words of the Waynes brothers, "Mo Money, Mo Money, Mo Money!"

 

[dgl24087]

New Holland has the new ISO system, at least for the larger 800 series loaders, I haven't seen the 200 Series TL loaders. Checking prices on the JD website, these new loaders are a lot pricier. The 563 NSL lists for $7868, compared to $5495 for the 542 NSL and $4843 for the 522. I expect NH to be comparably priced. At least JD is still offering the older QA loaders.