New Holland Tn65D Fuel issues

   / New Holland Tn65D Fuel issues #11  
Bear in mind that pulling the line off won't really drain the tank. The outlet fitting is slightly above the bottom. A layer of water and crud will remain below that. Look for a drain plug. The tank SHOULD have one. You will have better luck rinsing with that out than with just the hose off.

 
   / New Holland Tn65D Fuel issues #12  
Ok i think i know where its at now, theres a hex shaped "lug" i saw to the left of the bulkhead where the line fitting screws in. I ignored it bc i thought it was where another fitting bulkhead could have went but wasnt cut out. Ill try unscrewing it when i get around to working on it some more.
 
   / New Holland Tn65D Fuel issues #13  
I think you’d be MILES A HEAD if u go and get a plastic outboard motor fuel tank..
Strap it down with some ratchet straps and be done with it..
They have an inlet, outlet, a FUEL GAUGE & hand primer.. for when u keep running out of fuel..
Good luck
 
   / New Holland Tn65D Fuel issues #14  
I know whats going on now, after i had to clean the lift pump screen yet again, i decided to drain the tank. I put a10 gal washtub under the drain plug and let it rip. The fuel was a nasty yellowish color but there really wasnt much physical crud like i found in the screen. I had to empty the pan once and it filled it a good ways more before it was done, i thought it was odd since i was running out of fuel as i parked it last time but i ignored it and finished draining it out.
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After pouring a gallon of fresh fuel in and seeing it turn clear, i was disappointed and i put my finger into the drain hole and felt all kinds of sandy stuff that was too heavy to drain sitting on the floor of the tank, so after getting mad for a minute, i determined the tank had to come down.

Where i was already nasty, i got back under the tractor and after looking around, turns out the tank is super easy to remove. It took me about an hr to get down, i removed the line from the bottom, pulled the upper line out of the two looms that hold it to the inside of the tank, then removed the vent line and the filler neck through the hole inside the left rear fender and then it just a bunch of skidplate screws that go into the tank so they arent really tight, and two strap bolts and the tank slides out the side. The pick up line is long enough after unlooming it earlier that it can be left attached until the tank is away from the tractor. The clamp is rusted and ruined on mine, so ill have to cut it and get a new clamp. Ill just leave the bad clamp on the sending unit, since its offically trash anyways...
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Since i couldnt get the pickup line off, i just unscrewed the whole sending unit and it gets sad after i did that.

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It looks kinda short... :(
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This is a view looking into the fill neck hole, i think that pipe and ball is whats left of the pickup tube and fuel gauge sending unit. Lots of nasty crud all inside the bottom too.

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It got dark on me so i put a bag over the deceased sending unit and stuffed it under the floorpan in case it rains, and dragged the tank inside the garage for now. I dont currently have a truck to haul it with but if a basic water hose, some dawn and some creative manuvering around of the tank will work, i think i can get it cleaned out and dried back out eventually. I hope this fixes the tractor and its sputtering and weakness, seems i was actually starving for some (really nasty) fuel that was constantly getting crud added to the mix from the rusting pick up tube piece and getting air into the line since whats left of it is perforated from rust. Ill check around online to see if i can find the sending unit for a reasonable price, and perhaps one thats made of something other than metal if possible.
 
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   / New Holland Tn65D Fuel issues #15  
Wow.. that fuel is NASTY.!!
Now THATS a hammer.!! Lol
Good luck cleaning the tank..
If u had car wash near by.. a couple of bucks and 10 minutes would take care of it.. or if u had a pressure washer..
 
   / New Holland Tn65D Fuel issues #16  
Wow.. that fuel is NASTY.!!
Now THATS a hammer.!! Lol
Good luck cleaning the tank..
If u had car wash near by.. a couple of bucks and 10 minutes would take care of it.. or if u had a pressure washer..
Yeah i keep the hammer to get the front end loader pins to lift up, they are supposed to be liftable by hand but they need a smack to get to release fully. It sits there and never moves, so i just leave it lol.

I have a few options for a car wash, my local one has a townhouse right behind it and ppl are always sitting outside watching so i may take it on up the road to wash it out if a friend comes by this weekend with a truck.
 
   / New Holland Tn65D Fuel issues #17  
I just had a friend i texted the pics to point out that the line on the sending unit is a vent or return line, the tube doesnt attach to where the line goes so the whole unit is just for the fuel gauge. I guess the line about 2 inches from the bottom of the tank is the pick-up. Theres a little sump in that area and its also where all the rusty parts and the float have settled, they are right up against it tbh.

Im gonna look at the resistor once i get it out of the tank, i may be able to fix it by fitting a new tube to the plastic top of the sender and hanging the resistor and float assembly on the new tube and resoldering the wires back. I found a pic online of a new sender with a measuring tape beside it so i know how long it was supposed to be, the tricky part is the float arm length but it looks like its as long as the.tube when folded with the float all the way towards the top.

Ive gotten pretty good doing this since ive done this to my mercedes a few times, it has a stereo system in the trunk that is so loud it breaks the fuel gauge sending unit every so often and i have to fish the float out and reattach everything back to the tube. The fuel tank is in the trunk right behind the rear seat so it has a rough life.
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   / New Holland Tn65D Fuel issues #18  
Got some time and finally got the sending unit redone, i was seriously considering just getting a new one for $100, but ive put these back together a lot on other vehicles and i found all the important parts in the bottom of the tank, so i decided to give repairing it a shot to save a few $$. Im gonna reinstall it as soon as my jb weld fully cures, it bench tested as working on a meter but ill still plug it into the tractor to test before i put it in the tank.

I used a crossbow arrow i had thats aluminum for the pipe on the sending unit, i didnt want to use steel again since it failed within 10 years the first time. I used measurements from a picture i found online for the pipe and float rod length.

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As for the tank, I took a water hose and sprayed it out for around 20 minutes, theres wasnt anything really stuck to the inside, just a half inch or so of rusty mud that settled in the bottom that sprayed out pretty easily. I had been treating it with an expensive 2-part biocide that cummins reccomends before i drained it so that likely already killed the algae if there was any inside. Theres still a lot of dusty looking spots where the water dried on the sides, im gonna take a couple gallons of fresh diesel and rinse it a few times and see how it looks before i put it back together. It looks really bad here in the pic but a lot of it is water spots, i have HORRIBLE hard/rusty water, i cant wash a car at home bc once it dries it looks 10x worse than it did before i started.

The only part about the job i hate is the new float rod i had to use can still rust, but i plan on keeping fuel conditioner and biocide in the tank from now on, on top of never letting it get below 1/2 tank. Ill also drain and inspect the tank every 3 years or so as maintenance since its not a hard job.

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I just put the jb weld on at 8am, ill probably wait until tomorrow evening or this weekend to put it all back together and hope that this cures most of the power issues with this tractor. Kinda bummed bc I just found out its not really a 65hp tractor, new holland rated it 65hp at the flywheel, not at the wheels so it makes sense why i thought it felt weak compared to the 1972 MF-165 it replaced. That thing was a brute for its size, it was almost too small of a tractor for the power it made. It was 2wd however and no loader and the brakes were almost gone in the end so the TN65 has the edge overall, at least I think... i loved that old MF-165, dad taught me how to drive a straight drive on it back in the day and it had a fender that could be a makeshift seat with a handle to help hold on to.
 
 

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