Comparison New Holland TN75 versus Kubota 4630 versus John Deere 5325

[N80]

Still don't understand the problem with the Kubota. I have an L4400 and have mowed for hours on end in 95 degree heat and deep fescue and brrom straw and the needle barely budges above the cold end pin. When I get into high broomstraw the needle will start to rise....after hours of mowing. I pull the screen out. Knock it against a tire and I'm off again. No problem.

If your Kubota won't perform at this level this is a problem with that particular tractor. If you like the tractor otherwise, then find the problem and fix it. It is unlikely (impossible) that this is a brand issue or even a particular model issue. So if you can't find the problem on this tractor, sell it and consider an M7040.

When you try to sell it for $24K will you tell the seller it overheats?

 

[milkman]

Still don't understand the problem with the Kubota. I have an L4400 and have mowed for hours on end in 95 degree heat and deep fescue and brrom straw and the needle barely budges above the cold end pin. When I get into high broomstraw the needle will start to rise....after hours of mowing. I pull the screen out. Knock it against a tire and I'm off again. No problem.

If your Kubota won't perform at this level this is a problem with that particular tractor. If you like the tractor otherwise, then find the problem and fix it. It is unlikely (impossible) that this is a brand issue or even a particular model issue. So if you can't find the problem on this tractor, sell it and consider an M7040.

When you try to sell it for $24K will you tell the seller it overheats?

I think he don't like the Kubota, he wants a John Deere.

 

[MikePA]

Like to hear what happened to that TN75 tranny?

Before posting in a thread that has not had any activity for almost 7 months, particularly when you're asking a question of a specific person, it's a good idea to display all the posts by that user to see when they last posted. In this case, candersen10 has not posted for almost 3 months, so you might have to wait a while to get an answer.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Before posting in a thread that has not had any activity for almost 7 months, particularly when you're asking a question of a specific person, it's a good idea to display all the posts by that user to see when they last posted. In this case, candersen10 has not posted for almost 3 months, so you might have to wait a while to get an answer.

But if candersen10 has e-mail notification enabled then he would be alerted of this threads activity. I know I would like to know what happened with his TN's tranny as would a lot of other TN owners.

 

[GinNB]

I emailed him just in case he didn't have email notification turned on. Most forums have it turned on by default but it seems to me that I had to specifically turn it on for TBN. IMHO, email notification should be the default because lots of newbies wouldn't know how handy it is.

 

[candersen10]

I got the email and am back. My Kubota 4630 is still around although I now have a 5325 John Deere as well. After comparing the quality of the two machines, I have to say that I would be very hesitant to ever buy another kubota machine. While their equipment is certainly well built, the John Deere equipment I looked at seems much heavier and more professional grade.

My Kubota 4630 overheats running a 6 foot rotary mower in medium length grass (around a foot). There is nothing mechanically wrong with it, the hydrostatic transmission just isn't conducive to running that sort of thing. It is certainly true that occasionally the radiator gets clogged but I have had the machine overheat (7-8 out of 8 bars) with absolutely no clogging. The John Deere on the other hand, which has only 11 more horsepower (57 horsepower compared to the kubota's 46), will run a 10 foot rotary mower in 2 foot tall grass in economy PTO mode meaning it runs no higher than 1500 rpm. It can run this way all day in any weather and the temperature never goes over half way.

The John Deere also seems to have far more power than my TN75. A truck got stuck recently and we had to pull it out with a tractor. We hooked up the TN75 and it would not budge the truck. These tractors both have identical wheel spacing/sizing and have the same amount of weight up front (800 pounds). When we hooked up the John Deere after unhooking the TN75, it immediately began to move the truck. Perhaps the difference is traction for some reason (both have 4wd which was engaged with the rear differential locked), however, I have no doubt in my mind that the Deere is a better machine given how much better it performs.

Obviously, the Kubota 4630 is a different type of machine than the John Deere. My only point is that for farming a larger area, the John Deere equipment simply seems better. As for the TN75, the Deere is just plain better.

You can accuse me of favoring a brand all you want, however, I have owned Caterpillar, Bobcat, Kubota, New Holland, Farm-all and John Deere Equipment and for farm tractors the Deere tractors seem to me just plain better.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I got the email and am back. My Kubota 4630 is still around although I now have a 5325 John Deere as well. After comparing the quality of the two machines, I have to say that I would be very hesitant to ever buy another kubota machine. While their equipment is certainly well built, the John Deere equipment I looked at seems much heavier and more professional grade.

My Kubota 4630 overheats running a 6 foot rotary mower in medium length grass (around a foot). There is nothing mechanically wrong with it, the hydrostatic transmission just isn't conducive to running that sort of thing. It is certainly true that occasionally the radiator gets clogged but I have had the machine overheat (7-8 out of 8 bars) with absolutely no clogging. The John Deere on the other hand, which has only 11 more horsepower (57 horsepower compared to the kubota's 46), will run a 10 foot rotary mower in 2 foot tall grass in economy PTO mode meaning it runs no higher than 1500 rpm. It can run this way all day in any weather and the temperature never goes over half way.

The John Deere also seems to have far more power than my TN75. A truck got stuck recently and we had to pull it out with a tractor. We hooked up the TN75 and it would not budge the truck. These tractors both have identical wheel spacing/sizing and have the same amount of weight up front (800 pounds). When we hooked up the John Deere after unhooking the TN75, it immediately began to move the truck. Perhaps the difference is traction for some reason (both have 4wd which was engaged with the rear differential locked), however, I have no doubt in my mind that the Deere is a better machine given how much better it performs.

Obviously, the Kubota 4630 is a different type of machine than the John Deere. My only point is that for farming a larger area, the John Deere equipment simply seems better. As for the TN75, the Deere is just plain better.

You can accuse me of favoring a brand all you want, however, I have owned Caterpillar, Bobcat, Kubota, New Holland, Farm-all and John Deere Equipment and for farm tractors the Deere tractors seem to me just plain better.

I don't care if you prefer the JD, that is your choice and your dollar. I prefer NH for various reasons but mostly it was because of the dealer. Everyone is able to choose what brand they want to buy and that is what is great with our country

I am curious about the TN75's tranny problem. What ever happened with that? What was the problem? What caused it and did NH fix it? Thanks for taking the time to update this thread.

Merry Christmas

 

[candersen10]

I don't care if you prefer the JD, that is your choice and your dollar. I prefer NH for various reasons but mostly it was because of the dealer. Everyone is able to choose what brand they want to buy and that is what is great with our country

I am curious about the TN75's tranny problem. What ever happened with that? What was the problem? What caused it and did NH fix it? Thanks for taking the time to update this thread.

Merry Christmas

The clutch had failed somehow by cracking and then breaking apart. The bill was close to 2000 dollars, the tractor is a 2002 TN75 with over 1000 hours so the repair was not covered under any warranty. The machine has the power-reverser for clutch-less shifts and I almost wonder if this didn't somehow contribute to the problem.

 

[mopiflyer]

Hi Guys,

I got in this late so I have not read all of the letters...and don't intend to muddy the waters too much...but here is my experience. I use my tractor primarily for hay.. my old Minnapolis moline (M 670...67hp)) was getting old and definately was not able to go through the mud we have been having the past couple of winters... cut to the skinny I looked at the NH TN75, the Kubota M7040 and the JD 5325... the are all pretty close to the same in hp, size ect..Kubbie is a bit lighter than the JD I think, but I got Cast wheels and beet juice and it handles big bales front and back with no problem. I had one fellow just swear by the TN75 and I looked them over pretty seriously.. I had a good dealer, but 30 miles further thatn the Kubota.. I looked at the Deeres, but it was too pricey and ended up with the M7040 and could not be happier. ( I did look also at the Branson, but was concerned about the distance to the dealers, althought I liked the tractor and it was the most reasonable. The 7040 is pretty economical, comportable and probablm free...of course I only have 200 hours on it, but it does everything I want it to do... I pull a Vermeer 505L baler... move hay bushhog... just aobut everything...I'd take a look at one and drive it... it certainly is not in the class of the 4630.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

The clutch had failed somehow by cracking and then breaking apart. The bill was close to 2000 dollars, the tractor is a 2002 TN75 with over 1000 hours so the repair was not covered under any warranty. The machine has the power-reverser for clutch-less shifts and I almost wonder if this didn't somehow contribute to the problem.

There is a big difference between the clutch and the tranny so at least that came out well (I fear the tranny repair would have been a lot more if it was the problem). I have heard of some people having problems with the clutch on the TN but it was usually as a result of operating the tractor with their foot on the clutch. If you have a lot of hired help this could be a cause of the problem. The power shuttle clutch was suppose to be a wet clutch and take more abuse then the mechanical shuttles dry clutch. I have 1100 hours on my TN 65 with mechanical shuttle and the clutch is holding up great. My friend had a problem with his clutch in his TNF but being a narrow tractor and having such a cramped cockpit it is easy to find your foot on the clutch pedal as you are trying to move your foot for comfort while you run up and down the rows in the vineyards.