New Holland to switch to Korean manufacturer?

[dave1949]

What I was refering to are the regulation as others have pointed out that are there for the wrong reasons. If we get below our EPA cap, why shouldn't we be able to get back to it with more production? I do understand regulations and am for most of them. I guess I should have been more clear in my post what I meant.

The patents I was refering to are products sold here in the USA. I do realize we wouldn't be able to do anything overseas. The government doesn't want to upset the "bank" they are doing the most buisness with now.

I'll give you an example that fills both stupid regulations and US non enforcment on China crap. I bought my daughter a Honda XR50 dirt bike. She wanted to learn to ride so I set a goal for her in school, and when she met that goal I bought he a bike. I had to get a used bike due to in the mean time, the goverment passed that child lead law a few years ago. It affects everything including metal alloys with lead in them. So small dirtbikes, ATV, snowmobiles, etc can't be sold legally in the US anymore. I think the age limit is 12. So now I have a bike that I can't get parts for due to Honda, along with Suzuki, Kawi etc stopped selling these bikes here.

Yet the china made crap that is sold to little kids, they just changed the recommened age from 6 to 12 years old and presto, they keep selling. You know the china dirtbikes that the handle bars and wheels fall off while your riding.

I guess the goverment jumped all over that problem of little kids sucking on swing arms. They don't have time or maybe the wheels falling off isn't such a big problem. I have only seen a handfull of these stories on the TV. Never seen one though of lead poisoning from a motorcycle or ATV.

Not having youngsters or using dirtbikes, I had to find what you were referring to:
Lead law throttles youth powersports - USATODAY.com

You have certainly pointed out an absurdity. It's certainly not a good thing, but you could find similarly absurd rules and regulations in any large company, miltary branch of service or educational institution. From that perspective, it proves the government is run by people. Sorry you are caught up in this nonsense.

Non-regulation or under enforcement of regulations is at the heart of the China product issues. Unless each importer is charged with certifying products they import, and there are realistic checks on that, and we are willing to put harsh penalties on offenders; it won't change.

The ethical aspect of that is importers know Chinese products are prone to contamination. How many of them are ethical enough to spend the $ to at least internally satisfy themselves they are not importing potentially harmful products? I am sure some do, but there must be many who depend on the government (taxpayer dollars) or private consumer product safety advocate groups, to take care of that expense for them. No ethics, no personal responsibilty there.

On the patent/intellectual property thing, I am agreeing with you, just adding how it has been 'sold' to us.

It's a crazy world.
Dave.

 

[joes_427_vette]

Are we done bashing yet ?
Can't change big money. All you can do is vote with your money.

 

[ohdeerfarmer]

Maybe it's just me....a guy who is now working for a Singapore based company....who lives in the rust belt (Ohio).....and still drives an old Chevy Truck (1978)....it's impossible to find a NEW tractor made in the good ol' USA....my latest JD 175 lawn tractor is "assembled in the USA" but it probably has more Asian parts than a DVD player!

OEM's like NH have specifications for their products and can farm out the production to the lowest bidder. Perhaps the Korean tractors will be as good as the Japanese but it's unlikely that will be the case. In the Asian Culture a Japanese made product is better than Korean or Chinese and even the cinese people don't like to buy "made in china"!

My 2 cents,

Jeff

 

[JasG]

Maybe it's just me....a guy who is now working for a Singapore based company....who lives in the rust belt (Ohio).....and still drives an old Chevy Truck (1978)....it's impossible to find a NEW tractor made in the good ol' USA....my latest JD 175 lawn tractor is "assembled in the USA" but it probably has more Asian parts than a DVD player!

OEM's like NH have specifications for their products and can farm out the production to the lowest bidder. Perhaps the Korean tractors will be as good as the Japanese but it's unlikely that will be the case. In the Asian Culture a Japanese made product is better than Korean or Chinese and even the cinese people don't like to buy "made in china"!

My 2 cents,

Jeff

It is not impossible, it depends on the size of the tractor. Case IH, and Deere both produce tractors made in the USA. These are large tractors 150 + HP and if you buy one that has to be ordered Deere will even let you drive it off the assembly line. The larger NH tractors are just a rebadged Case that were Steigers and they too are made in the USA. Some of the AGCO line is made here, along with combines. Each of the big OEM's makes some product here and overseas and subs some out.

If you want a good mower Ferris is made right over the hill from me.

 

[Fred Widom]

In today's world it is impossible to vouch for "Made in".
The sub assemblies are made all over the world and then assembled even for these high H. P tractors.