New Holland VS. New Deere's

[rockyridgefarm]

New Holland VS. New Deere\'s

I am researching my next tractor. I am fairly sold on the NH, but wonder how they compare to the new green TEN's I believe I am roughly in the range of the TC35D, and the unit would be used by both my wife and I to maintain our place. Is the iMatch going to allow my wife attach implements, or would a aftermarket unit do as well on the NH? Will she be able to attach anything with either? She grew up in a large IH Dealership and is pretty comfortable around equipment (OK, sometimes she lets me have a turn on it )
we have about 50 acres to bush hog, roads to keep up, and countless ditches to dig... I expect to rnd up with a FEL and BH

My overiding situation is that the NH dealer here is No. 1 He has received their Presidents award for 11 strasight years. When the three main reasons what to buy are Dealer, Dealer, Dealer, you can't beat Tulsa New Holland...

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Re: New Holland VS. New Deere\'s

<font color=blue>...Is the iMatch going to allow my wife attach implements, or would a aftermarket unit do as well on the NH? ...</font color=blue>

Hi Mike,

If the implement was on level ground, and it was a perfect world... Yes... but...

The iMatch is nothing more than a Quick Hitch... you can buy for the New Holland or any other tractor... If you have a choice... get the telescoping lift arms... I find to be the most versatile even with oddly designed "standard" A-frame 3-point equipment and on crooked non-level ground... Periodically, you’ll still need the persuasion bar to help hook things up… even with a iMatch…

Brush hogging will take every bit of PTO hp you can throw at it… the more the better and bigger and faster… Mass does great with road maintenance and doing ditches – so heavier is better…

I think you answered your own question with your award winning dealer down the road from ya... but with 50 acres and spending only a few dollars more on day one... I'd be looking at the TC40 or TC45 if you stay with blue... or the 4610/4710 for green {being the TC35 is basically the same size/wheelbase/weight/class}…

You only go through this world once… so you might as well get it right the first time… /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

 

[rockyridgefarm]

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Actually, we do have a SMALL level spot on our place...
I guess that we need to try out the newer three points, I bet the telescoping arms would be all that's needed. I was leaning towards the TC35D for her, but of course the bigger frames will be a consideration (we have 80 acres, and even the TC45D is probably small... I don't want to get into haying, and I do have 30 or so "automowers" to help keep the grass down. I do need to be able to handle round bales, it sure gets old moving them by hand...

 

[jinman]

Re: New Holland VS. New Deere\'s

<font color=blue>I was leaning towards the TC35D for her, but of course the bigger frames will be a consideration </font color=blue>

Mike, the frames of the TC35, 40, & 45 are all the same. The 40 and 45 have four-cyl engines, but essentially they are the same tractor with the weight being slightly higher on the bigger horsepower tractors and some additional lift capability. Don't forget the PTO hp of the bigger tractors is important, especially with a HST tranny. Also, I have used a bale spear on my TC45Ds 3PH and it moves the bale like it was light as a feather...with a 16LA loader on the front for counterbalance. I've never used a bale spear on the loader, but that should also work.

 

[BKColeman]

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I was fairly sold on NH for quite a while, but kept waiting to drive a new JD 4410. After driving it, I wasn't swayed enough to switch. So I bought a TC 40D. If you're already leaning toward the NH, that's the way you should go. The JD was a fine machine, but I just liked the NH better.

The telescoping links are standard on the D models and make hook-up pretty easy. I've been very pleased with them so far and don't think I would consider a quick-hitch.

If you're considering the 35, I would strongly recommend driving a 40 or 45. I drove both a 35 and 45 to compare (dealer didn't have a 40) and the 4 cyl engine certainly seemed to me to be smoother. So I ended up w/ 40D (45 doesn't have mid-PTO available).

Good luck!

--Brad

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Re: New Holland VS. New Deere\'s

Great, this is hel[ing a lot! What have you felt about the supersteer? I have a lot of trees, even in my pastures. I can surely work around without it, but would I wish I had it? I figure between in and more HP (read torque); I'd choose HP.

 

[BKColeman]

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Yes, between going up to a higher model or getting SuperSteer, I would go for the higher model. But that said, I really love SuperSteer so far. It was one of the things that drew me to NH.

I bush hogged this weekend through some very tight areas and the tractor just went where I pointed it. I had my truck in the same area last fall and had to back out several times because a turn was too tight. My Boomer (including loader and rotary cutter) is actually longer than my truck too. So I was very pleased.

The only drawback I've ever heard about SuperSteer is that when sitting still or at low speeds, the loader will actually turn the opposite direction of the wheels when you turn the steering wheel, maybe a maximum of 6-8". I knew about this and was worried about it, but when I test drove one I decided it didn't bother me. But I also got the quick-detach bucket. When hooking the bucket back up, that movement side to side took a little getting used to.

So if you've got a lot of trees, I'd say it is worth it.

 

[BKColeman]

Re: New Holland VS. New Deere\'s

Another cool feature w/ SuperSteer is the Sensi-Trak clutch. Basically you're in four-wheel drive all the time, but it automatically disengages when you don't want it engaged, like in a sharp turn. The ground was very wet this weekend and I didn't see any scuffing of the grass at all. But I'm pretty sure I would have needed 4wd a few times on the hills, but didn't have to think about it. You can lock it in 4wd if you'd like, or override it into 2wd if necessary (like long trips on pavement). Overall, a pretty nice feature.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Re: New Holland VS. New Deere\'s

Thanks again, I just stumbled onto your pics of yours. They also explain a lot. I think that the FWD arangement would help me at my place, I never go out of FWD on my Yanmar....