New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series

   / New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series #11  
rtimgray,
I think you're reply was a "victim". If it was Bob's post that got deleted, yours was automatically deleted because it was a reply to his.
 
   / New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series #12  
Thanks man - I must admit I hadn't even noticed that Bob's post were deleted. I see now that they are gone. Sorry for any confusion. Thanks again.
 
   / New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series
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<font color="blue">You bought a tractor based on weight?? </font>

That was definitely one reason, not the only one.


RedDog
 
   / New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series
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<font color="blue"> I too looked at Kioti's but their power stops at 65. Not nearly enough to seriously farm with. </font>


Your right about that!

RedDog
 
   / New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series #15  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I too looked at Kioti's but their power stops at 65. Not nearly enough to seriously farm with. )</font>

That may be true in the Midwest but it doesn't necessarily hold true here in the east. In fact my area has a little revolution going on, all kinds of small scale farming coming back in. Central N.Y. has pretty much always been a strong dairy area and still is but there is a lot of new small scale organic farms and CSA's coming on, as you might imagine the smaller tractors are king on this scale.
 
   / New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series #16  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( He then asked why I bought a Kioti over Kubota and I told him one big reason was WEIGHT .

RedDog )</font>

Hmm. When I compared the same size Kioti to the L5030HSTC I bought, the weight was nearly the exact same. The Kioti DK50 cab weighs 4107 pounds and the Kubota L5030HSTC weighs 4090. Seventeen pounds different. Being that the price was also nearly the exact same and the Kubota had a hydro drive, a far superior dealer, a considerable amount more of proven history, and had much nicer fit, finish, and drive characteristics, for me there was definitely no doubt. Saying "a big reason" to purchase a particular brand of tractor is because of weight is not something I understand. Isn't it relatively cheap to add weight to a tractor? I like to lay all the facts out and consider the overall package. But, hey, that's just me.
 
   / New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series #17  
I'd not consider an M9 or an M105 or even an M125 to be a good tillage tractor. The M9-105-125 are speciality tractors aimed at the small operator whereas the DK65 is too small to be of any consequence if used for any type of farming operation where ground engagement is an issue.

I did considerable haying with my 5030 but I was always using at it's limit and then some. Especially when round bailing, with the 5030's less than adequate PTO output was was forced to reduce the overall diameter of my round bales to compensate for that shortcoming.

The DK 65 would fall in that same scenario. It may well be fine for limited farming such as cultivating, square bailing or spraying, but it lacks the ooomph for any serious PTO intensive implements such as round bailers, stubble beaters hammer mills or the like.

Again, I considered a Kioti but as the power stops at 65/55, it isn't a contender for an agricultrial operation such as mine.
 
   / New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series #18  
I wasn’t trying to defend Kioti, just making the point that people are farming on many different scales and I imagine every one of them considers themselves serious, that's all.
Best Regards, Jamie
 
   / New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series #19  
Anyone who says that 65 hp isn't enough for "serious farming" has a very narrow view of farming operations. There are many, many serious farming operations in this area and the largest hp tractor is 40 - 45. These are cattle/hay/tobacco farms. I would qualify them as "serious farmers" because farming is their only income (no secondary jobs - just farming). Of course a 65 hp couldn't pull a huge ripper or chisel plow or pulverizer, but is can pull a 9 or 10 foot disc all day, getting tobacco and hay fields ready. It can handle a discbine/discmower, rake, and square baler (just this weekend, my neighbor with a Mahindra 4110 used a disc mower, cut, raked and baled about 10 acres - obviously this is not a large spread, but was accomplished quite handily.

Of course, we should also remember that earlier in the century, the lions share of farming was on small farms with 25 hp tractors. To condemn a tractor as being incapable of "serious farming" based on hp isn't entirely fair. The entire scope of the farming operation must be taken into consideration. Me - I'm a play farmer - I've got a real job to support my farming habit. However, I do tip my had to the folks that make their living soley from the fields.
 
   / New Kubota M-Series/ Kioti DK Series #20  
I think folks are just playing at semantics. Perhaps, by 'serious' the poster meant a farm with a lot of acreage requiring larger, ground engaging implements. I doubt he meant to disparage farmer's that might make a living with smaller tractors.

My M6800 is all the tractor I need, but I still consider it a baby tractor comparitively speaking. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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