New LS MT 125 owner!

   / New LS MT 125 owner! #11  
The dealer placed a restricter value on the drop side of the bucket hydraulics. it is a rheostat type valve that I can manually adjust the flow. I keep it pretty tight which makes the bucket dump a bit slower but gives better control when using the bucket to scoop material. it seems to keep the bucket from rolling forward when digging/scooping.

Would you be kind enough to post a photo of this valve, showing where it is installed? I'd really like to do something like that.
 
   / New LS MT 125 owner! #12  
Suggestion on "floppy bucket syndrome".

When you dump, hold the joystick in the fill dump position for an extra 3 seconds or so. That will refill the voided end and make the bucket solid again.

If the extra 3 seconds or so bothers you, then by all means spend your money for a restrictor. Or, if you really want to have the best, get a new loader control valve with regen, or get a bigger pump.

SCUTs and CUTs are built to a price point. Hydraulics are basic low buck setups.
 
   / New LS MT 125 owner! #13  
Suggestion on "floppy bucket syndrome".

When you dump, hold the joystick in the fill dump position for an extra 3 seconds or so. That will refill the voided end and make the bucket solid again.

If the extra 3 seconds or so bothers you, then by all means spend your money for a restrictor. Or, if you really want to have the best, get a new loader control valve with regen, or get a bigger pump.

SCUTs and CUTs are built to a price point. Hydraulics are basic low buck setups.

Could you describe where the "fill dump position" is? Seems to me you can't be in the fill and dump position at the same time.
 
   / New LS MT 125 owner! #14  
Could you describe where the "fill dump position" is? Seems to me you can't be in the fill and dump position at the same time.

Sorry for the typo. Should have been full dump (joystick all the way to right).
 
   / New LS MT 125 owner! #15  
Suggestion on "floppy bucket syndrome".

When you dump, hold the joystick in the fill dump position for an extra 3 seconds or so. That will refill the voided end and make the bucket solid again.

If the extra 3 seconds or so bothers you, then by all means spend your money for a restrictor. Or, if you really want to have the best, get a new loader control valve with regen, or get a bigger pump.

SCUTs and CUTs are built to a price point. Hydraulics are basic low buck setups.

Adding a "new loader control valve with regen", or "get a bigger pump"-seems radical when the problem can be solved by merely adding a $55 restrictor valve to a line.
 
   / New LS MT 125 owner!
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#16  
Here are 2 pictures of the restrictor valve: MT 125 valve 1.jpgMT 125 valve 2.jpg
 
   / New LS MT 125 owner! #18  
Here are 2 pictures of the restrictor valve:View attachment 684642View attachment 684643

More properly called a "Flow Control Valve" it's important that it only effects flow in one direction, a check valves unseats when fluid moves in the other direction.
that also means it's important to install it the right way. If you use an ordinary needle valve, movement in BOTH directions will be restricted and force will lag.. very annoying.
They're quite common in fluid power systems both hydraulic and pneumatic but rarely seen in consumer products. the speed of mechanical systems using fluid power is usually controlled by designing pumps, actuators, and lever-arms to get the desired effect and not require adjustable speed controls - not just for cost but also to avoid manipulation by untrained personnel.
As far as the floppy bucket problem, I fixed mine by just getting the air out.

About Flow Control Valves in fluid systems...
 
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   / New LS MT 125 owner!
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#19  
Well as it turns out the flow control valve leaks like sieve. So yesterday I took it off and followed the instructions I saw in a YT video called "floppy bucket Syndrome". So far it seems to be helping, but being winter I haven't been able to really test at this point. I did notice better control and stability in the float function so maybe this will work overall.
 
   / New LS MT 125 owner! #20  
More properly called a "Flow Control Valve" it's important that it only effects flow in one direction, a check valves unseats when fluid moves in the other direction.
that also means it's important to install it the right way. If you use an ordinary needle valve, movement in BOTH directions will be restricted and force will lag.. very annoying.
They're quite common in fluid power systems both hydraulic and pneumatic but rarely seen in consumer products. the speed of mechanical systems using fluid power is usually controlled by designing pumps, actuators, and lever-arms to get the desired effect and not require adjustable speed controls - not just for cost but also to avoid manipulation by untrained personnel.
As far as the floppy bucket problem, I fixed mine by just getting the air out.

About Flow Control Valves in fluid systems...

Good that you point the directional flow type vs bi-directional. I use variable control valves in a couple of applications, choose the variable to set things where I want them rather than guessing when purchasing, and want the bi-directional type for my applications....not what you are doing.
 

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