New Mahindra

[LAWALLSTRACTOR]

It's already happening. There was a post a while back where the poster was saying a John Deere dealer was telling him to buy American and he was seeing a stamp someplace on the tractor saying made in China. I know at this point it is only component parts but with US companies help China will figure out how to make quality tractors. and probably sooner then later just as the Japanese South Korean's and Indian's did.

 

[LAWALLSTRACTOR]

Interesting Doug You said all of the things I said during the time I was trying to type my post in between taking care of customers. I guess that is a good thing.

 

[Dougster]

Interesting Doug You said all of the things I said during the time I was trying to type my post in between taking care of customers. I guess that is a good thing.

Ha! You may have been recalling my past post about my own trip last summer to a New Hampshire green machine dealer... although I'm sure I'm not the only one who has recently discovered that "buying American" sometimes means "buying Chinese"!

But I must admit... I am becoming more of a realist every day. It's getting harder and harder to buy American... or even something with some American content. I have not given up... but I'm learning to fight the battles only where they can still be won. To do otherwise is just totally discouraging.

Dougster

 

[YanmarFever]

Correct. They've clearly stuck their big toe in China. I'm sure more will follow! I got in trouble here a while back by relating that I discovered Chinese parts on some green machines while shopping for my tractor. It definitely turned me off to the flagship "American" brand. Thank God because eventually I found my Mahindra!

But my point is that China won't just continue to manufacture crap tractors for the next 10 or 20 years. Hardly! With outside help, they will get very good very fast. You need only look at South Korea as a . Remember when everything made by Samsung and Goldstar was junk? Now everything Samsung and LG (formerly Goldstar) is coveted! I know! The friend and I just went shopping for a new TV and some new appliances! Mama Mia... how things have changed!

It's an ever-changing world. Takes some getting used to when you are as old and crotchety as me!

Dougster

Dougster, Hold your horses
You are comparing two totally different things here between china & japan.
You see the japanese are a proud people who want to be the best of the best. Not only that but they are a free society.

china on the other hand is a communist country. The workers there are trated like cra... and there is no insentive to invent or get ahead, just do whats required and punch out at the end of the day.

I have been in commy countries in the past, and thats just the way they operate, Russia is a good example of this.

It will take china many many years to catch up or even come close to Japan, Korea ect....

 

[SABULA FARMER]

Dougster, Not to change the subject, but I was reading my manual for the 2615 and I did not follow the brake-in procedure for a new engine. Is this a problem? I did not run the tractor at full load until I had about 3 hrs on it. And then I only had it at full load a shot time thereafter.
I was unaware that one should run the engine at full load for the first hour.
...I hope that I didn't ruin the engine.

 

[Dougster]

Dougster, Hold your horses You are comparing two totally different things here between china & japan. You see the japanese are a proud people who want to be the best of the best. Not only that but they are a free society. china on the other hand is a communist country. The workers there are trated like cra... and there is no insentive to invent or get ahead, just do whats required and punch out at the end of the day. I have been in commy countries in the past, and thats just the way they operate, Russia is a good example of this. It will take china many many years to catch up or even come close to Japan, Korea ect....

I never mentioned Japan, but I do understand your point. Free people do better than oppressed ones, especially in terms of design innovation and quality. The fact is that it took quite a while even for Japan and South Korea to come up to speed. But China is a whole different animal... the 1,800 lb. gorilla in this game... and they learn awfully fast. Plus, they are doing it all with our help (intended or unintended, for better or worse). They have the cheap labor and the world seems to want it. And just for the record, I do not object to Chinese tractor parts per se. I just object to Chinese tractor parts being sold on those super-expensive, allegedly "all-American", lime green tractors.

Dougster

 

[Dougster]

Dougster, Not to change the subject, but I was reading my manual for the 2615 and I did not follow the brake-in procedure for a new engine. Is this a problem? I did not run the tractor at full load until I had about 3 hrs on it. And then I only had it at full load a shot time thereafter. I was unaware that one should run the engine at full load for the first hour. ...I hope that I didn't ruin the engine.

Can't really help you there. Mine is an older (2004) 10-series machine made by TYM for Mahindra with a Daedong engine. There are no special break-in procedures discussed in my owner's manual. Sorry!

Dougster

 

[Oleozz]

Dougster--How has your Daedong engine worked for you? I'm assuming it must be the same or nearly the same motor that is in the Kioti 40?

 

[BamaRob]

Dougster, Not to change the subject, but I was reading my manual for the 2615 and I did not follow the brake-in procedure for a new engine. Is this a problem? I did not run the tractor at full load until I had about 3 hrs on it. And then I only had it at full load a shot time thereafter.
I was unaware that one should run the engine at full load for the first hour.
...I hope that I didn't ruin the engine.

I think that recommendation (to run under full load for first hour) is intended to "seat" the rings on the pistons. There are others here at TBN much more knowledgeable of diesel engines than I, but here's my take on it. I think that if you run your tractor at varying RPMs under varying loads for the first 50 hours or so, it'll break in fine. Seems like there was quite a bit of discussion here on the topic of engine break-in around the time I purchased my Mahindra. I may have even been the one to ask the question when I read that in my owner's manual. I'm sure if you do a search on the forums you'll find several discussions dealing with engine break-in.

Later,

BR

 

[Dougster]

Dougster--How has your Daedong engine worked for you? I'm assuming it must be the same or nearly the same motor that is in the Kioti 40?

That's exactly right! Same as the Kioti 40 HP... a good thing maybe since my nearest tractor dealer is, in fact, a Kioti dealer!

I must say that so far, so good... no complaints at all. No fail to start, stalling, smoking or running on. No problems of any kind. Plenty of power too!

The really serious "severe duty" testing won't start until this spring. And let's be honest... I really won't know for months if not years whether or not my choice was a good one or not. Still, so far no complaints!

But remember what I've said many times before: I really bought myself a Bradco 509 BH and a KMW FEL. The Mahindra tractor just happened to have been attached! Lucky me!!!

Dougster