New Member from Massachusetts

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Bull88

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Hello Everyone,

I recently was directed to this website from an automotive forum that I frequent, where I had posted a question about tractors.

I'm a teacher here in western Mass., and just recently purchased my grandparents' old farm and homestead. The house and property need a lot of work, but I enjoy being the steward of a part of my family's past. I've got a bit of myself in the land too, especially since creating a nice spot on a hill in the back where my wife and I got married last year.

At any rate, I have been wanting to get a tractor for some time now, but each year put it off because of the expense and the blinding array of choices.

I have about fourteen acres here, small compared to many estates, but it feels large to me. I have all sorts of projects and plans that I'd like to do over the years. Some of them include installing a fence, digging footings or augering holes for sonotube for tool and equipment sheds, creating a koi pond, digging up and removing the old cement foundations from a few dilipdated sheds that are coming down, creating flower and vegetable gardens etc. There are also the frequently recuring chores of moving various piles of dirt, digging holes for trees and shrubs, and mowing. Some of the land is hayfield, which I would periodically like to trim. I also finish-mow a large area, and would like to mow more, but all I currently have at my disposal for the mowing chore is a 42" Craftsman lawn tractor with a 17 HP Kohler engine. It takes me one full day to mow and trim, and that is if the grass is dry and relatively light!

I'm hoping that people with more experience and knowledge than I have can help guide me on my search for the right machine. I have so far looked at and been tempted by larger machines, like a John Deere 1020 with loader attachment, by smaller used Kubotas and Fords with mower decks, backhoes, and buckets, and even older PowerKing and similarly sized Case tractors, which seem to be sized and priced between a regular lawn or garden tractor and the larger, more powerful farm and utility tractors.

What kind, brand, age of machine would I be wise to investigate? How do I balance my need for a machine that can do heavier work with my need also for a machine that can mow the lawn regularly without leaving giant ruts in my sometimes soft, clay soil? Is it wise to buy a machine from the '40s, or will one from the 60s or 70s be more useful and reliable?

I also do need to be mindful of price. As a teacher, my profession rewards me in substantial ways, but money is not one of them. I simply cannot afford to go out and spend a ton of money on a machine. The JD 1020 I was looking at has a bucket and costs just under $5k, and that to me is sort of a good figure for my budget. I could then save up and purchase one of the expensive backhoe attachments at a later time.

If I appear a babe in the woods, then that is probably because that is what I am when it comes to tractors. I love mechanical things, and have been into cars for years, but when it comes to tractors I feel lost.

I look forward to getting to know some of you on here and learning from your experience.

Dave
Amherst, MA
 
   / New Member from Massachusetts #2  
Bull88 AKA Dave:

Welcome to TBN :D! We are almost neighbors as I live in Cummington :). Keep your rider for around the house and as a self powered utility cart. I would stay away from 60's vintage tractors (except one with low hours). I definitely recommend 4WD/MFWD especially with a FEL and with power steering (but it will cost you). If you have some hills/slopes to contend with I would go with weighted R-1 or R-4 tires. There are a lot of HP "junkies" :eek: in TBN land so beware. I would think a mid sized CUT with HP in the high 20's to low 30's would meet your needs. The old "Rule of Thumb" for tractor attachments is 1 foot of attachment per 5HP. I would think you should get a tractor that can handle 5 foot attachments. My tractor is 29HP/23+ PTO HP and I have had no difficulties with 60" attachments. You should be aware that if you will be doing serious "dirt work" heavier is better. If you will be doing primarily light work (i.e. brush hogging with a rotary cutter or finish mowing) go light. If your land is uneven, rocky, and or has a lot of hidden surprises :eek: ground clearance may be an issue. If you need manuverability size will mater. To me tractor weight, ground clearance, hydraulics, and "footprint" were the main criteria in tractor selection. I also "needed" weighted R-1's. By the way all CUT's seem tippy. I would be careful of any slope/tilt angle> 15 degrees especially when working the FEL. I wish I had a BH, but my "need" is not that great. Good luck on your research and feel free to keep us informed of your journey. You can also PM me. :D Jay
 
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Welcome to TBN Dave. :)
I couldn't have said it any better than what Jay did...enjoy and do share w/us.
 
   / New Member from Massachusetts #4  
Welcome to tbn. I guess we could be considered neighbors considering how far apart some of the Texan's are.:rolleyes:

Good advice so far - look for something 30+ HP - though the jump in price from 30HP to 40HP isn't as much as the jump from 20HP - 30HP. Low or no interest financing is available on new machines - might let you stretch your budget a bit - though it is a personal choice.

Another option is to designate some of the lawn as field and then get a bigger utility tractor - they can often be had (used) for less $$ than a larger compact - you give up the hydrostatic transmission though.

Dealer support is as important as tracotor brand. The "big three" are Kubota, Deere & Case / New Holland. All make good units. Kioti & Mahindra are some "off brands" that offer lots of performance for the $$$.
 
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All right, three responses and all of them from fellow northeasterners!

As I was mulling this over last night, I began to think that what I need to do is to upgrade my lawn-mower to a JD 60" or something similar. That way, my mowing time would be greatly reducued without stepping up to a compact tractor for mere mowing duties.

Then, I could get a larger machine for the heavier work that I will occasionally want to do.

Let me ask you, when you see something like this on eBay, do you think "good deal" or "stay away"?

eBay: CASE MODEL 320 BACKHOE LOADER FRONT BUCKET LOADER (item 120121292749 end time May-24-07 17:00:00 PDT)

To my untrained eye, I see that I can have a beefy loader and backhoe in useable condition for under $5k that I could be using right away. But then again, I wonder how hard of a life this thing has lived for the past 40 years, and how often it would break, what it would cost to repair etc.

Even with financing, I can't afford to go out and spend 10-15k on a tractor, with all the scrimping my wife and I will have to do to upgrade the house and property.

Thanks again.

Dave
 
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QUOTE Bull88
"To my untrained eye, I see that I can have a beefy loader and backhoe in useable condition for under $5k that I could be using right away. But then again, I wonder how hard of a life this thing has lived for the past 40 years, and how often it would break, what it would cost to repair etc.

Even with financing, I can't afford to go out and spend 10-15k on a tractor, with all the scrimping my wife and I will have to do to upgrade the house and property."
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I'd be hesitant about a 60's hard used tlb with broken power steering. You live fairly nearby moodus ct, if you're really interested drive down and look it over good..
I found a used JD 770 within my price range, and added a backhoe a couple months later. It's nowhere near the size of that thing, and because it's fairly small I'm more inclined to jump on and do a few minutes work. I might not do that if I wasn't as comfortable?
This just me though and I don't want to talk you out of something that might just be what you need..
Either way before you bid on this go down (with a mechanic buddy) and look very carefully, see if you can get the answer to 'how many hours' are on it.
 
   / New Member from Massachusetts #7  
Dave:

I do not hassling with the Cooley Bridge so I usually do not get over to your side of the CT River, but based on my "driveby travels" in your area I would suggest you check out Devon Lane Farm Supply. If you are patient, research well, and shop around you will find a tractor that will fit your needs and budget. Good Luck and keep us posted- Jay :)
 

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