new member new bx25d, Pins not lining up/stuck on backhoe

[vincey2kr1]

They sure did make it look like the pins were easy to take off on the youtube videos lol. Actually they are except one backhoe pin, my dealer is a 2hour drive from me and its nearly impossible to take out and put in one of the pins without using a pry bar or a hammer. Its really a pain because the PTO cover really doesnt allow you to hammer it out. All my other pins are easily taken out. Do you guys recommend reaming out the hole or decreasing the size of the pin (should have access to a lathe)? Or make the 2hour drive to my dealer ..

 

[LiveRoll]

I've never had a problem with mine you have to make sure the whole unit is level, and lowering / manipulating your out-riggers and dipper to take up the weight of the unit to find the neutral point ( the sweet spot) and then the pins should be loose and just pull them out. I find it is usually harder to hook up to it than to unhook from mine.

Practice makes perfect.

Cheers

Roger

 

[vincey2kr1]

Ya i've spent hours , trying all sorts of different things, different ground surfaces, a jack even, outriggers up down one up other down, pushing pulling with the backhoe etc. I really think they just dont line up , every other pin on the machine is very easily taken out. I'll try practice some more

 

[LiveRoll]

you also may want to try a very thin coating of grease on the pins when they are removed, and check the inside of the holes on the hoe, there may be some excess paint etc in there that may cause a little binding.

Cheers

Roger

 

[GolfAddict]

I have the same, or at least similar, trouble with mine. When I take the weight off of the back wheels with the BH, one pin will just slide right in and out. The other side the pin is super tight.

I've found that I have to let up on the boom and start putting the back of the tractor back down a bit. I have one hand on the lever, the other on the pin. I toggle the lever up and down a hair while trying to twist the pin. There is a spot that suddenly the pin will twist.

I can then twist the pin back and forth while pulling and it will pull on out. It never just slips out like the other side, but does get loose enough that with some twisting/tugging I can do it by hand. I've gotten pretty good at it over time...

 

[art]

It would be wise to loosen the backhoe mounts from the tractor, center them and retighten.

 

[deerseeker001]

Welcome from Wisconsin

 

[radioman]

I had a similar issue. On one side was easy and the other tight. I would use the outriggers to twist the frame just a hair to make the pins come out. I never used a hammer and I wouldnt. You dont want to get the mushroom effect on the pins making it worse. On the side that is tight, after the BH is off, take a round hoile sander and strip the paint off. It will make the pins easier to take out and grease the pins. When I regrease the BH , any grease that oozes out the joints i would wipe it off and wipe the excess on the pins.

 

[Mowbizz]

Definitely, easier to take off than put back on...The words "sweet spot" are the perfect description for taking just the right weight off the pins so that they slide out easily. I have to say that on mine, when I hit the sweet spot, both pins come out easily. Perhaps some misalignment problems on yours...good luck with it!

 

[SLIMSHADIE]

The very first time I had to use a dead blow hammer-hard plastic. The pins were kind of corroded. Couple of hard taps and the came out. I lightly greased the pins and holes, no problem now. The backhoe is not the easiest to get back on. I just laugh at those videos, takes me like 5-10 each time to get it back on. That's why its off 99% of the time.

 

[radioman]

well -- the more time it spends off the tractor the less likely it will be easy to put on and off.... just saying.

 

[Gary Fowler]

The simple solution is to get a second tractor and leave the hoe on all the time.
Other than that, a rotary sanding pad might help to remove the paint and a bit of metal if you can determine where it is binding (top or bottom or perhaps even the sides. If you cant find the wear spot, just take a few thousandths off all the way around but don't get carried away and remove too much so that the pin is sloppy in the hole.

 

[Mowbizz]

The very first time I had to use a dead blow hammer-hard plastic. The pins were kind of corroded. Couple of hard taps and the came out. I lightly greased the pins and holes, no problem now. The backhoe is not the easiest to get back on. I just laugh at those videos, takes me like 5-10 each time to get it back on. That's why its off 99% of the time.

Seems to get a tiny bit easier each time for me. Now I have a concrete pad I will use to off and onload the FEL and BH...should make a big difference over loose 3/4" stone as a work surface.

 

[shadowshack]

I've used steel wool on the pins and mounts sucessfully, Afterwards use a light machine oil to coat the scrubbed surfaces. Rarely do I have to hit anything. Sometimes a strenuous twist is necessary, though.

 

[SLIMSHADIE]

well -- the more time it spends off the tractor the less likely it will be easy to put on and off.... just saying.

That doesnt make any sense

 

[JoeL4330]

I don't have one, so this constitutes some guesses. Could be one of the pins or could be one of the holes...are the pins interchangeable? Does that make a difference? If the "difficult side" moves with the pin, I would get a replacement pin ...trying to true it or turn it down on a lathe seems too hard, but maybe buff the pin(s) with jewelers rouge ...and, if you can find the right size "bottle brush" you can rouge the brush and spin it in with a drill to buf the hole. If it were mine, I might even leave some rouge in the hole/on the pin when I operated it...the mildest of abrasive to "seat" it ...

Incidentally, there are slipperier potions than "grease-gun" grease ...maybe check with your local gunsmith/gunshop.

Does it matter which pin you try to pull first ...if it's always the "second" pin, then I'd bet the holes are slightly mis-aligned (with respect to each other) ...

Once you can get a pin out, can you slip it back in easily? Or, alternatively, when you put a pin in, can you immediately slip it out ...If so, you might try marking up the pin(s) with a magic marker, insert and remove and see if there is a point on the pin that seems to be binding.

 

[Shutesbury]

Just be very careful of foot (and other body part) placement when easing the outriggers, swinging the boom, etc to find the 'sweet spot'. When remounting the BH on my BX24, I had the lower pins jump off the frame dogs, dropping 600# on my foot.

It was 'just a quick job' and I had sneakers on, instead of my usual steel-toed boots. Broke the distal end of three toes, lost three nails, and counted my blessings it wasn't further up the instep, where more damage would occur. You don't realize how much a little twitch of a lever can jack around all that weight in an instant. I was aware of foot placement initially, but shifted when I saw the 'far side' pin align, and leaned over to push it in. My shoulder caught the boom arm lever, and it happened before I knew it.

Paul

 

[Deano]

I have the same, or at least similar, trouble with mine. When I take the weight off of the back wheels with the BH, one pin will just slide right in and out. The other side the pin is super tight.

I've found that I have to let up on the boom and start putting the back of the tractor back down a bit. I have one hand on the lever, the other on the pin. I toggle the lever up and down a hair while trying to twist the pin. There is a spot that suddenly the pin will twist.

I can then twist the pin back and forth while pulling and it will pull on out. It never just slips out like the other side, but does get loose enough that with some twisting/tugging I can do it by hand. I've gotten pretty good at it over time...

I do this SAME procedure!

 

[Cherokee140]

I am not sure grease or oil would be a good I would think that dirt and grime would just love to stick to those surfaces covered with oil or grease.

I do the same thing as the above folks say.

I will add I took them off in my shop once and that was the biggest mistake I ever made. I did not want to leave them out and get rained on for who knows how long. (I have taken a bit of a down turn here that is why no day in the life updates....I can't do anything)

Anyway on that slippy shop floor when trying to mount the things they would just slide away from the tractor. Make sure the surface you put them on has a little bit of "teeth" to it. Not like your basement floor but more like a sidewalk.

 

[radioman]

Well - I do use the outriggers,sometimes the boom to get the sweetspot but I was always careful. The outriggers should always be out so it doesn't go down on your foot. Using the swing of boom is dangerous and I only use boom to push or lift. As I was saying before -- not wanting to hookup and disconnect without a thought only makes it harder without "practice" . If I need to do digging, Ill hook it up even for a 5-10 mins and Ill disconnect it since I dont need to carry it all the time. It just makes things easier and lets the pins stay smooth and make it easier to slide in and out from use. Thats all I am saying slimshadie.