New Member Wants a New (ok, used) Tractor

   / New Member Wants a New (ok, used) Tractor #31  
I only owned one car with an automatic and it was just a winter beater for a few months. All the tractors I have used had clutches. I have smoothed out the gravel road I live off of. I have grubbed out stumps. Plowed snow and ice last week which of course is a rare chance living around Atlanta. I graded my 36x72 barn site with a box blade and a clutch tractor. That was more dirt to move than I thought but just took time. I do wish at times I have 4wd. When I dream of making hay I wish I had gotten a bigger tractor but I know how much work hay is so that dream is ok not being fulfilled. Front end loader can move round bales as they are light down here at usually less than 1,000 pounds. I have not noticed any local farmers with HST but that of course means nothing. What you think you need is more important. For me I can shift gears and use a clutch.

What I do wish I had was a storage shed to keep my tractor out of the weather. I have a little JD 870. Good on fuel but the JD 5 foot mower I have has a metal back of the deck instead of chains. Mulches the grass more and takes more HP. Also does a niuce job breaking up manure piles in the roughs. Horses keep most of the pasture eaten down. If I did not have horses I would need either more HP or a deck with chains to mow tall green fields.
 
   / New Member Wants a New (ok, used) Tractor #32  
TrctrGrl,

My wife is the same size as you so we have the same problems. It seems that every tractor has different spacing, but they are all aimed at taller people. You will have to try them. For example, we looked at an older NH TN75 and she couldn't reach the clutch safely. We ended up with a newer model with a power shuttle, and she likes this tractor the most.

You are right to avoid HST. My wife likes it the least. I like it for mowing around the fence, buildings etc, but it is a waste for a tractor used in fields.

You can get an old sickle mower for a few hundred dollars to cut hay with when the time comes. Focus on the tractor.

30-40hp is fine for what you plan on and will run a square baler if you ever borrow one.

Make sure the loader has a quick attach. I like the skid steer style since it gives the most flexibility. You will find the need for pallet forks at some point, and I often remove the bucket just for maneuverability, visibility, and clearance around things.

There are many good used tractors out there. Try to stay under 2000 hours if you can. I think you will be able to. Make sure you have at least one hydraulic remote on the back.

New tractors have some benefits and may fall into your budget. Kioti's DK series are perfect for what you want. Massey's 1600's are great too.

One thing no one is mentioning is the actual tractor dimensions. Specifically the wheelbase. It makes a big difference in how the tractor rides and how you feel during and after use. Fields are a lot rougher than they look and a short wheelbase is going to rattle you around a lot. We have a Kioti CK27 with a 66 inch wheelbase and and I cannot use it to mow in the fields because of the ride. My next up tractor has a 72.5 inch WB and is fine in the field at all mowing speeds. I cut and rake hay with it. My NH is a big tractor and is like a cadillac in the fields. Don't underestimate it. You have a lot of field to mow. Tractor weight makes a difference and up to a point, a heavier tractor has benefits.

Have fun!
Charley
 
   / New Member Wants a New (ok, used) Tractor #33  
This whole gear vs. HST has been beat to death on this board and is hardly worth arguing about anymore. The myth of higher maintenance cost for the HST has been disproved and if a couple of horsepower lost to the drive system makes a difference then you are probably picking the wrong HP range to begin with. Drive a bunch of tractors (gear and HST) and then make up your mind what works the best for you.

Lots of people have off-brand tractors and like them, but if you are buying used I would advise a name brand that has a good local dealer.
 
   / New Member Wants a New (ok, used) Tractor #34  
This whole gear vs. HST has been beat to death on this board and is hardly worth arguing about anymore. The myth of higher maintenance cost for the HST has been disproved and if a couple of horsepower lost to the drive system makes a difference then you are probably picking the wrong HP range to begin with. Drive a bunch of tractors (gear and HST) and then make up your mind what works the best for you.

Lots of people have off-brand tractors and like them, but if you are buying used I would advise a name brand that has a good local dealer.

Boy ain't that the truth, we have owned and used them all and still have the old "crashbox" on some and now one with a hydraulic shuttle shift plus several with HST.

It matters little what I prefer, only what fits the owner best.
 
   / New Member Wants a New (ok, used) Tractor #35  
I'll admit I haven't read all the replies, but I do have one comment I'd share.
For now I'd worry about putting the money into a tractor over getting a tractor plus bushhog. I'm sure you could get the neighbor to help you out next summer or even the summer after if need be.

Now as far as height is concerned. I stand a whopping 5'3" and have an old Ford 4000. When I first got it I use to sit on the edge of the seat, but have since put a newer adjustable seat on it. I keep thinking I would like a newer tractor, but so far the one I have has done everything I've ask it to do. It complains every now and again, but it gets the job done.

Good luck in your tractor search. Dont be stranger between now and when you make your purchase. We like to hear about the WHOLE process, the good and the bad. So as you look around and learn dont be afraid to share.

Wedge
 
   / New Member Wants a New (ok, used) Tractor #37  
Charleyfarmall and TripleR made some really good points in their last posts, and I agree.

My wife and I have a 35 hp Kubota, which fits us both (she's 5'9" and I'm 6'), so we're not as far apart size-wise as you and your husband. All it really means is that we're not always moving the seat to suit. Most modern tractors are adjustable enough to fit you both, but be sure before you buy that all the controls fall within easy reach with the seat set for you.

Ergonomics is important, so is size and weight. In the Kubota lineup, which is what I know, a Bx or B series is most likely going to be too small for what you need, an L may be big enough, and an MX is almost a sure bet, maybe a bit of overkill. Like the guys said, a little bigger won't hurt anything. Those size tractors (L and MX) make very poor lawn mowers, so be aware of that.

With the size you're looking for, handling small round bales won't be a problem if you do have to in future. Ours is about as small as I'd want to go for that chore. Also if you ever do want to make hay, 35-40 HP will do the trick for small square balers, rakes, etc.

For field mowing, I'd recommend the rotary cutter over the finish mower for durability concerns. I've hit a few good sized rocks that weren't supposed to be there. If you want manicured fields, the finish mower is better, but pasture is fine with the rotaries. I can mow roughly 2 acres per hour with a 5 foot cutter.

Long driveway + drifting = snowblower. My driveway is no problem with a rear blade and FEL bucket, but a friend's which we keep clear is a handful (600 feet plus) once there's any buildup at all. With a blade you need to have somewhere to put the snow, the blower will throw it wherever you want it. Keep in mind that most drifty driveways limit you to one side only for snow placement, otherwise you're only going to build a snow fence in the wrong place, which means more drifting. Our friend is selling next year, but if she wasn't, I'd be looking for a blower. Moving the plowed edge with a loader every week with a bucket gets old in a hurry. The 3400 will push it over to one side for a while, then it just crabs sideways.

The gear vs. HST debate is cloudy. I have gear because I don't like revving an engine that's not working, and I like the simplicity (and price) of a gear tranny. My left knee doesn't always agree with me, though. Waiting for someone to hook up a chain, or move something with the clutch pushed in isn't much fun.

Before you buy a gear tractor, push the clutch in and hold it for at least a minute, see how it feels. Try that a few times, and see if it's going to be something you can live with.

The QA bucket is a good idea no question. Mine isn't (price again) and I wish it was. Better resale value as well.

Tires? Probably loaded R1's depending on your uses and soil conditions, and you'll likely need ice chains for winter. Tires and rims are expensive, get them right the first time around. Block heater is a must too if you're storing with no heat.

Look for something that already has rear remote hydraulics plumbed in. If you want to add anything that requires rear hydraulics, like a blower with chute and deflector control, it's already there.

A good dealer locally makes a difference too like Jaylyn said, it's made her life easier already.

Your price range is going to be a problem I think, in finding something fairly new in good shape with low hours. I looked for a couple years and finally gave up and bought new. Still paying for it, though at 0 % it's not too painful.

As far as material handling goes, I think you have to look at the long term use and buy for that. Mine won't be much help building my barn this summer, other than leveling ground and moving soil. I've seen posts with folks wanting to buy a tractor to remove stumps and rocks in the first year, then spend the next 20 years mowing the new pastures. Two words come to mind for them, one is bulldozer, the other is excavator. Both hired or rented.

My 2 cents, maybe three.

Sean
 
   / New Member Wants a New (ok, used) Tractor #38  
Hi tractorgirl.
I may be missing something, why would you want to rotary cut grazing land, do you have cattle, horses? The livestock keeps the grass cut. For putting up hay a sickle bar mower would be all you need I think. With a rotary mower you end up with mulched grass that goes to waste.
As far as you not fitting older tractors, many people used to block up the clutch and brake petal with a wood block to give easier access to shorter people. I used to drive farm tractors from about 7 or 8 years old. The smaller tractors were OK, Though an 'H' was a little big for me. None had that block.
 

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