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dodge man
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It’s hard to say without more info. On tractor data they list a lot of different options as far as transmission, cab and loaders for the JD. The Kubota looks like they are all cabbed, 12 speed shuttle and two different loaders.
If they are equipped the same the JD is heavier, has a 16 speed(maybe) and maybe a slightly stronger loader. That might give the JD a slight edge but if they are equipped the same they appear to be nearly even on paper. Both look to be nice tractors.
If they are equipped the same the JD is heavier, has a 16 speed(maybe) and maybe a slightly stronger loader. That might give the JD a slight edge but if they are equipped the same they appear to be nearly even on paper. Both look to be nice tractors.
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What about availability? You might check with dealers to see when you might expect delivery. That may also influence your decision.
sea2summit
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Not really enough info on what you want it to do.
My neighbor recently got a 5075M and parked side by side his 5075M is significantly smaller than my M4. If your working slow in the woods probably the 5075M is better, if you're in the fields probably the M4 just due to larger tire size alone.
My neighbor recently got a 5075M and parked side by side his 5075M is significantly smaller than my M4. If your working slow in the woods probably the 5075M is better, if you're in the fields probably the M4 just due to larger tire size alone.
Thank y’all for the replies, it’s really for rotary cutting, land leveling, and loader work at my house. I just sold my 4052M because it wasn’t heavy enough for half the things I wanted it to do. It was a Cadillac of a tractor though. And yes I figured the M4 vs 5075M configurations to be as close as possible for the comparison. Just wondering if y’all had personal experience with either. Both look very sharp and capable. I’ve tried doing homework on the 5 cylinder the Deere has but can’t find anything.
dodge man
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Looks like a large 3 cylinder turbo to me looking at the Deere sight. Most likely made by JD. You don’t hear about a lot of engine problems with JD. For that matter you don’t hear about a lot of engine problems with tractors of any maker.
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I was going to say, I dont think these are the same class of tractor. JD 50 series is like the Kubota 60 series. M7060.
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The jd 5075m with cab mfwd weighs in at about 9000lbs. The kubota m4 071 cab mfwd about 6000lbs . 50% more or 3000lbs is going to make he Deere way more capable. Except for hp not even comparable. If money is no object the Deere would be my choice.
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I must be thinking of the 5075E. The M is much heavier.
Hello Hunterkoe, Decide what your most commonly used speed range is and sort your gearbox options on that basis. eg JD quad shift g/box stacking round silage bales. sub 120hp you have the 24 sp(6x4) quad shift, this puts a stick shift in your main work speed range.Changing(stick shift) gears gets old fast when you have 700 bales to shift. HOWEVER @ 140hp you get a 20sp (5x4) quad shift, which means NO stick shift in your main work speed range. You are a lot less tired at the end of the job.
Loader: recommend you get loader suspension, excellent at reducing bouncing/ shock loads on rough ground.
How high do the loaders reach?
Is to lift capacity measured at the bucket pins(look good on paper) or measured @ 12" or 18" in front of bucket pins(real world accurate)?
Do cabs have skylight for high level loader work?
For loader work a heavier tractor is more stable.
Test tractors for ergonomic fit.
Rear scv's get 3 minimum, 4 if you can. eg tnt top link and back blade with hydraulic tilt, angle, and offset.
Get LARGEST hydraulic pump option as the trend these days is to more and higher capacity hydraulic equipment(loader). Undersized hydraulic pumps suck.
Engines are much of a sameness these days, Gearbox ,Hydraulic capacity, and ergonomics dictate how well a tractor can do it's job.
Some food for thought.
I can't comment directly as I have not used these 2 tractors in this size.
Loader: recommend you get loader suspension, excellent at reducing bouncing/ shock loads on rough ground.
How high do the loaders reach?
Is to lift capacity measured at the bucket pins(look good on paper) or measured @ 12" or 18" in front of bucket pins(real world accurate)?
Do cabs have skylight for high level loader work?
For loader work a heavier tractor is more stable.
Test tractors for ergonomic fit.
Rear scv's get 3 minimum, 4 if you can. eg tnt top link and back blade with hydraulic tilt, angle, and offset.
Get LARGEST hydraulic pump option as the trend these days is to more and higher capacity hydraulic equipment(loader). Undersized hydraulic pumps suck.
Engines are much of a sameness these days, Gearbox ,Hydraulic capacity, and ergonomics dictate how well a tractor can do it's job.
Some food for thought.
I can't comment directly as I have not used these 2 tractors in this size.
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Here is a review of the 5075m
Kubota M4-071 review/problems
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John Deere 5075M Reviews - TractorByNet.com
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mo1
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The 5075M doesn't make a lot of sense in Deere's lineup, I think Deere just wanted to stick the DEF-free 3029 3-cylinder engine in the 5M chassis. (They stopped using the five-cylinder skid loader engine a while ago.) That size of tractor really is designed for the four-cylinder engine with more power and all of the other models in the 5M line use the 4045 4-cylinder. If you don't mind DEF, I would look at a four cylinder 5100E as you will be in the same general ballpark for price and size (a tad smaller, but ballpark) and get noticeably more power. If you want to avoid DEF, get a 5075E or a Tier III 5083E/5091E/5101E. All are nice tractors.
Any of those tractors including the 5075E, which is smaller than a 5E 4-cylinder or 5M, are going to be noticeably larger and more capable than a 4052M. A MFWD 5075E open station weighs almost 6000 pounds without a loader or any ballast at all, a 4052M is only about 3750. A MFWD 5075E open station with the 520M loader and bucket and filled rears will be about 9000 pounds, and the cabbed version about 750 pounds more than that. A 5085E or 5100E with loaded tires, loader, and bucket is 10,500-11,000 lbs.
I can't say much about Kubotas as I have never owned or operated them.
Root Cause
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You may already know this but if you are having difficulty deciding, then there isn't a bad choice. The deciding factor should be which dealer (owner and parts counter people) do you like best. That may well determine your level of happiness with the purchase.
sea2summit
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What's with your Kubota hate? I looked through your links and it looks like four people with problems? Maybe six. Hardly a trend, and there is a trend out there but apparently you couldn't find it. 4WD whine is an issue recognized by Kubota and they're working a fix.
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I don't HATE any tractor! Some one was looking at that tractor and
wanted some advice. When some one says so & so tractor is the best
just let them know they have problems just like any other tractor. The
best tractor is the ONE that you like. I have said before all tractors have
problems at one time or another as some tractors are made to last and
other tractors cheap just make money. Also all dealers are not the same,
I think some of the dealers have a bad case of hemorrhoids as their don't
treat their customers very good and then you have dealers that like their
business and really go out of their way to help them!
You can probably find on the net every tractor made someone has had some
problems with them.
willy
wanted some advice. When some one says so & so tractor is the best
just let them know they have problems just like any other tractor. The
best tractor is the ONE that you like. I have said before all tractors have
problems at one time or another as some tractors are made to last and
other tractors cheap just make money. Also all dealers are not the same,
I think some of the dealers have a bad case of hemorrhoids as their don't
treat their customers very good and then you have dealers that like their
business and really go out of their way to help them!
You can probably find on the net every tractor made someone has had some
problems with them.
willy
sea2summit
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Exactly. That's why I hate random google searches for tractor model problems, you'll find them and how many are legit or a trend? Heck if a potential buyer googled "new tractor hydraulic leak" they'd probably never buy a tractor
