New Septic System Troubles

   / New Septic System Troubles #91  
Im from that area. HOpe you get this sorted out. Johns Island can be WET!! I would think now a days even johns island there in Charleston county has codes and you would not be able to separate the grey water unless it had its own septic system.

going to skip forward now and read.
 
   / New Septic System Troubles #92  
When It rains for days the whole ground is saturated to the surface. It really doesn't matter if you shoot the water off 5 ft from your foundation or not its resting on wet ground that is saturated dwn there. Especially when It rains like that at high tide!

And you hit the nail on the head. There are so many people in that area , there is a shortage of homes and its booming. Anyone that can build homes is and as fast as they can. You moved there so your one of the 34 new people in the area to move there. There are homes and subdivisions on James and Johns Islands that use to grow tomatoes and watermelons when I was growing up just 20 25 years ago. Charleston Metro Area has doubled in size since then. How is the traffic on Maybank Now a days? has to be awfull, it was way back then and with only one brige over to west Ashley , or do they have a huge or multiple bridges across the Stono river. going to look at a satellite image to see now.
 
   / New Septic System Troubles
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#93  
When It rains for days the whole ground is saturated to the surface. It really doesn't matter if you shoot the water off 5 ft from your foundation or not its resting on wet ground that is saturated dwn there. Especially when It rains like that at high tide!

And you hit the nail on the head. There are so many people in that area , there is a shortage of homes and its booming. Anyone that can build homes is and as fast as they can. You moved there so your one of the 34 new people in the area to move there. There are homes and subdivisions on James and Johns Islands that use to grow tomatoes and watermelons when I was growing up just 20 25 years ago. Charleston Metro Area has doubled in size since then. How is the traffic on Maybank Now a days? has to be awfull, it was way back then and with only one brige over to west Ashley , or do they have a huge or multiple bridges across the Stono river. going to look at a satellite image to see now.

I have only been on John's Island for a little over a year now, but there are only 2 ways onto the island...A bridge on Main Rd between Johns Island and West Ashley, and the bridge from James Island to Johns Island on Maybank. Maybank traffic can be a real nightmare. I always tell our visitors to avoid getting here at rush hour, but they always seem to get here at that time anyway :dance1:. They will usually call and say that they are 15 minutes away...I tell them, see you in 30 minutes, you will see what I mean when you get to the bridge.

At least the view from that bridge is so nice. My wife and I love this area.

Maybank is currently under construction to add a second lane for traffic coming onto Johns Island. At least they have the foresight to build the bridge wide enough to support this back when they built it. The entrance to the island is also getting a bike trail and a pedestrian trail. Should really be something when it is all said and done. And of course, they are keeping most of the old, giant Live Oaks intact. Those trees were the first thing we noticed when coming to look for houses on Johns Island.

The expansion in this area is a little scary to be honest...and I suppose I am part of the problem! I hope that Charleston County stops fumbling this expansion though and works hard to get the infrastructure improvements in place. I could go on all day on this subject...

On a septic note....the installer should finish the first phase of this project today, which is installing the third bed and connecting it to the existing system. Hopefully, this will provide relief for the upcoming rain we have. Since I work from home, I have been monitoring the project. There were a lot of topsoil and roots left where the third bed is going. This was outside the area of the original septic system. The installer mucked all this out and is currently trucking it away. The soil changed color significantly at the point he stopped digging. This soil was a grayish color sand. The fill the installer brought in is extremely clean sand. I grabbed a sample of it.

After this third bed is installed, he is going on vacation (as am I it turns out...). In two weeks he will be back to muck out the whole area past the first drain bed and re-install that part of the system.

Judging by what has come out of the ground so far, and what is going back in...I am hopeful that we will be fixed up in a few weeks.

The side yard and back yard are truly a disaster from the equipment, which is exactly what I expected. It is likely going to get real ugly after 3" of rain that is in the forecast.

Thanks all,
Joe
 
   / New Septic System Troubles #94  
I have only been on John's Island for a little over a year now, but there are only 2 ways onto the island...A bridge on Main Rd between Johns Island and West Ashley, and the bridge from James Island to Johns Island on Maybank. Maybank traffic can be a real nightmare. I always tell our visitors to avoid getting here at rush hour, but they always seem to get here at that time anyway :dance1:. They will usually call and say that they are 15 minutes away...I tell them, see you in 30 minutes, you will see what I mean when you get to the bridge.

At least the view from that bridge is so nice. My wife and I love this area.

Maybank is currently under construction to add a second lane for traffic coming onto Johns Island. At least they have the foresight to build the bridge wide enough to support this back when they built it. The entrance to the island is also getting a bike trail and a pedestrian trail. Should really be something when it is all said and done. And of course, they are keeping most of the old, giant Live Oaks intact. Those trees were the first thing we noticed when coming to look for houses on Johns Island.

The expansion in this area is a little scary to be honest...and I suppose I am part of the problem! I hope that Charleston County stops fumbling this expansion though and works hard to get the infrastructure improvements in place. I could go on all day on this subject...

On a septic note....the installer should finish the first phase of this project today, which is installing the third bed and connecting it to the existing system. Hopefully, this will provide relief for the upcoming rain we have. Since I work from home, I have been monitoring the project. There were a lot of topsoil and roots left where the third bed is going. This was outside the area of the original septic system. The installer mucked all this out and is currently trucking it away. The soil changed color significantly at the point he stopped digging. This soil was a grayish color sand. The fill the installer brought in is extremely clean sand. I grabbed a sample of it.

After this third bed is installed, he is going on vacation (as am I it turns out...). In two weeks he will be back to muck out the whole area past the first drain bed and re-install that part of the system.

Judging by what has come out of the ground so far, and what is going back in...I am hopeful that we will be fixed up in a few weeks.

The side yard and back yard are truly a disaster from the equipment, which is exactly what I expected. It is likely going to get real ugly after 3" of rain that is in the forecast.

Thanks all,
Joe

I left out a word, that's 34 new people a day moving there. That number does not even count all the births that happen in a day either!!

Yep those were the only 2 ways onto the island for years now. That bridge on Maybank though is 2x the size it was back in the day I think it use to be a short 2 lane bridge that opened and had a bridge tender on it like all the bridges in the area when I way young. They use to get stuck open all the time as well:confused2::eek: At least the stuck bridges is a thing of the past! There is a third way onto the island but that doesn't do you any good to go toward Charleston as it is the bridge to Wadmalaw island which one onto that island your dead ended into it at that point, no other way off Wadmalaw, it is totally surrounded by marsh and river and no other exit/entrance except onto Johns island then onto Johns. Wadmalaw when I was growing up as I am sure most still is was extremely rural, still strong in the Gullah accent as much of the native johns island population, at least what's left of it still is. The road ends on Wadmalaw in Rockville where they have the Rockville Regatta every year, or at least they use too.

I am born and raised in Charleston. Younger years downtown, near the Citadel then on Folly Beach and James Island my highschool years. It use to have a small town feel on James Island back then. Everyone knew or knew of most everyone else and now there is so many people farms out there and so many new folks moved in and the cost is so high many folks my age (35 ) and younger cant afford to live on the island anymore and are forced out.
 
   / New Septic System Troubles
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#95  
Update, hopefully the final one...

Well, it is finally done! The new septic installer had a ~3 week vacation during our install and was only working on it in between jobs, so it took a few months...

The fix that was implemented was as drawn by the engineer...I was watching closely the whole time. First, a third gravel bed was installed adjacent to the existing septic system. This was mucked out properly, and all existing organic matter was removed down to sand. The soil engineer checked the seasonal high water table and verified that the newly installed bed was installed at the correct height (as high as we could get it based on the height of the septic tank essentially).

Next, the second bed in the original system, which sat between the first bed and the newly constructed third bed, was dug out completely. The new installer confirmed that the site was not mucked out properly in the first place, pulling up tons of top soil/organics and roots from beneath the drain bed. This whole area was heavily saturated with water as the original system was not draining properly...so much so that at one point he had to stop digging and wait a couple days to see what he was dealing with. He finished mucking this out, and re-installed a septic bed in this same location. Much of the material that was dug out had to be trucked to a special waste site.

Because of the install of the third bed, we lost a couple small trees, which was fine. The septic contractor hauled all of the waste wood away, and even snagged some of the stuff the original site clearing company left behind. Then he smoothed out all the dirt, regrading it properly, and he was done.

The next day a landscaping company was sent over...they used a small tracksteer to do some final grading and smoothing, then hand raked the whole area, and laid centipede sod down the match the existing yard.

That all happened about a week ago, and I have been busy watering all the sod since. I still need to replace some mulch, and get the fence to the backyard put back together, but I am praying this is the last of this saga!

Thanks for all that posted!

-Joe
 
   / New Septic System Troubles #98  
Sarcasm-

U say u lost a few trees? I'm betting at this point you would have been happy with a working system even if cost you your guest bedroom!
U say u r watering the sod. Is that water as in garden hose. Or water as in flushing the toilet?
 
   / New Septic System Troubles
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#99  
Sarcasm-

U say u lost a few trees? I'm betting at this point you would have been happy with a working system even if cost you your guest bedroom!
U say u r watering the sod. Is that water as in garden hose. Or water as in flushing the toilet?

:laughing:

It is amazing how long this took...but I am so so so glad it appears to be over!

As to how I am watering...all of the above I suppose!

-Joe
 
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   / New Septic System Troubles #100  
Here's to leaching! Cheers!!
 

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