New VS Old. Need help

[Bill Stocklin]

Yea, the heading was probably dumb of me. I'll let this one run for a while then maybe try again in another section on here with some clarifications. Thanks. Good suggestion.

Would there be a popular forum for larger tractor information?? I guess that's a long shot. LOL.

 

[motownbrowne]

The guys on "yesterday's tractors" might be of service. They are pretty helpful. Otherwise, see if you can find someone in your area with one to test drive. For sale or not. That's the only real way to see if you like a machine, as I'm sure you know. Good luck in your pursuit.

 

[AKfish]

My cousin went through this decision this past year. He maintains his ranch roads and stock dams with a pull-type scraper that looks like about 5 yard capacity. Been a 4430 2wd with weighted singles. Also feeds big rounds and gathers rounds with that tractor. 2wd was always a headache. Most guys in that area have moved up the 7000 series machines - pretty hilly.

He couldn't see spendin' that kind money! Finally settled on a 4255 4wd with loader, cab, new rubber, etc for $52K. Brand new 740 loader with grapple bucket for $13K.

IMO - the 50/55 series are way more tractor than the 6000 D and M series. Gotta look at the 6000R's or the small frame 7000's to really be in the same ballpark as the 50-55's.

Good luck.

AKfish

 

[Trent Hickford]

My cousin went through this decision this past year. He maintains his ranch roads and stock dams with a pull-type scraper that looks like about 5 yard capacity. Been a 4430 2wd with weighted singles. Also feeds big rounds and gathers rounds with that tractor. 2wd was always a headache. Most guys in that area have moved up the 7000 series machines - pretty hilly.

He couldn't see spendin' that kind money! Finally settled on a 4255 4wd with loader, cab, new rubber, etc for $52K. Brand new 740 loader with grapple bucket for $13K.

IMO - the 50/55 series are way more tractor than the 6000 D and M series. Gotta look at the 6000R's or the small frame 7000's to really be in the same ballpark as the 50-55's.

Good luck.

AKfish

sorry if i seem rude but the 6m and 6r are roughly the same machine, the m is a standard and r is premium (just like 6030 standard vs 6030 premium) I drive both as its my job and apart from the plastic work theres no major difference.
all new 7r tractors are 1 frame size only

 

[Edward. S]

sorry if i seem rude but the 6m and 6r are roughly the same machine, the m is a standard and r is premium (just like 6030 standard vs 6030 premium) I drive both as its my job and apart from the plastic work theres no major difference.
all new 7r tractors are 1 frame size only

If you did not know there are many major differences on the 6M Vs. 6R sector not just the plastic work. If you did not know AKFish was speaking about the previous series of the small 7000 Series.

What you can get on 6R and not on the 6M. There's more that's just what comes to my mind.

31MPH / 50K Transmission
Larger Cab
Larger Hydraulic Pump
Electronic SCVs / More SCVs
Front Suspension + Cab Suspension
More Lighting
Better Tire Options
Power Boost

 

[AKfish]

If you did not know there are many major differences on the 6M Vs. 6R sector not just the plastic work. If you did not know AKFish was speaking about the previous series of the small 7000 Series.

What you can get on 6R and not on the 6M. There's more that's just what comes to my mind.

31MPH / 50K Transmission
Larger Cab
Larger Hydraulic Pump
Electronic SCVs / More SCVs
Front Suspension + Cab Suspension
More Lighting
Better Tire Options
Power Boost

Thanks Edward, for filling in the blanks. You got alot better idea of the 'details' than I'll likely ever have for those bigger iron machines!

I know a guy shouldn't "generalize" and just broadly categorize something when you're trying to explain your thoughts - but it's easier, quicker to the point - and I'm lazy that way!

Nonetheless, the OP was referencing the 6000D more than other models and I should have focused my comparisons there. And specifically, the D models are limited by the transmission and hydraulic options available. The M's are a much better step up in that regard.

My cousin bought a JD4255 MFWD with full power shift transmission in Ohio from a big horse barn operation for $52K. Like new condition, 10K hours with a reman engine. I don't believe you can 1.) get a power shift transmission in a D or a full power shift in a M and 2.) get either for one $52K.

AKfish

 

[Edward. S]

Thanks Edward, for filling in the blanks. You got alot better idea of the 'details' than I'll likely ever have for those bigger iron machines!

I know a guy shouldn't "generalize" and just broadly categorize something when you're trying to explain your thoughts - but it's easier, quicker to the point - and I'm lazy that way!

Nonetheless, the OP was referencing the 6000D more than other models and I should have focused my comparisons there. And specifically, the D models are limited by the transmission and hydraulic options available. The M's are a much better step up in that regard.

My cousin bought a JD4255 MFWD with full power shift transmission in Ohio from a big horse barn operation for $52K. Like new condition, 10K hours with a reman engine. I don't believe you can 1.) get a power shift transmission in a D or a full power shift in a M and 2.) get either for one $52K.

AKfish

The problem is that the OP is tall and large, I would suspect a 6R would suit him the best due to the spacious cab. It is extra money but its money well spent if you want to be comfortable.

I picked up a 7810 earlier this year with 4200 hours on the clock for 65k. Has a P/S transmission as well, it is starting to grow on me.

 

[Bill Stocklin]

Thanks for all the info. I never think I referenced a 6R or D or anything. Honestly, I don't know which one is which. I just said 6 series because it appeared to be the smallest tractor that would reach high w loader.

Ride quality, new vs old?

Old vs new? Better/ reliable?

I have noticed in my searches that most the 50 series only have 2 outlets and you use them to run loader. In that respect, seems like the newer tractors are more conducive to loader work w LH reverse and integrated loader joystick and still have 2-3 outlets to do stuff w.

Anyone know how many sets of remotes you can conveniently have on 6 series? It would be nice to have 4,1 for tilt cylinder and 3 to do stuff 3.

 

[Edward. S]

Thanks for all the info. I never think I referenced a 6R or D or anything. Honestly, I don't know which one is which. I just said 6 series because it appeared to be the smallest tractor that would reach high w loader.

Ride quality, new vs old?

Old vs new? Better/ reliable?

I have noticed in my searches that most the 50 series only have 2 outlets and you use them to run loader. In that respect, seems like the newer tractors are more conducive to loader work w LH reverse and integrated loader joystick and still have 2-3 outlets to do stuff w.

Anyone know how many sets of remotes you can conveniently have on 6 series? It would be nice to have 4,1 for tilt cylinder and 3 to do stuff 3.

D Series - Economy Series
M Series - A mix between both.
R Series - Premium Series

On a 6M/R you can easily have 3 sets for the loader Up - Down , Dump - Curl, and for a grapple opening and closing.
6R on the rear I believe minimum is 2 sets and maximum is 4 sets.

If it was a tractor strictly that has to do with loader work I would pick up a 6M/R series just because its operator friendly. Having a powershift to do loader work is never a fun task.

 

[Green Power]

I believe you can get 4 remotes on a 6M. Have you thought about a 6150M with the H360 Loader? Whatever you get, get a grapple.