HOWEVER---were the emails the rest of you got signed "Sharon"? Mine was. The ad says to call Tony at a toll free # to arrange shipping anywhere (even though the ebay listing up top says local pickup only). I'm betting the "placard" shown on the ebay item page is from the original auction, which could well mean they were inserted into the auction as 2005s by the seller. Judging by the appearance and the Bulldog loaders, one can guess the source. But how stupid would a supposed equipment reseller have to be to believe you were buying a pair of 2005 models that NEEDED to be "totally refurbished" as the ad states? And then continue to list the condition as "new". This is the part of the market that hurts us all.