Newbie BX24 questions/comments

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Did my first 5 hours or so yesterday.

1) I turned the tractor around on the beach a couple times (turf tires). It has slight incline as you go away from teh water (like a beach). I was in 2WD High. Oops. As I turned up the incline it stopped. It didn't spin tires it just didn't want to go. So I put in 4WD and Low. It still would not go. It was not dug in. I had to backup and make a run for it to turn. How is thing gonna pull a box blade if it can't pull itself. When using the FEL it felt normal in what you could push or not push. Does HST need to break in to bite more? Is there adjustments? No wheels turning engine running and nothing happened.

2) Wow this thing is fast !! With it throttle up in high gear going up hill, I hit a little bump in the road and It felt like it caught air. It was like a little dune buggy.

3) What is the clicking sound while waiting for glow plugs.

4) After I shut it off I hear a "Clink" sound, like a solidnoid releasing. What is it?

5) I really wedged it once. I was trying to clear/level a path for easy access for the tractor to go places I need. There were lots of trees and rocks. I backed it up for a pass with FEL. And my left tire climbed up a smooth good size rock. Then the tractor slightly twisted to the right and FEL was jammed against a tree. How the **** I managed this I don't know. Couldn't go forward because FEL and tree. And if I backup it felt like it was gonna tip. Didn't want to raise FEL and raise center of gravity. So finally I used the backhoe as a "guard" to prevent it from tipping over.Then I backup up the rock enough to clear tree. Every time I went back forward it would slide back to the right because the rock behind me. But after a bunch of tries I got it out. But I felt safe with the hoe protecting it. Anyway it go my heart pumping.

6) On one side the floor stays down nice and firm. On the other side it likes to come up a little and flexs down when I step on it until it sits on frame. Is it missing a bolt/clip or something. It's minor but I just like to see things tight and not move.

7) Digging out trees sucks. I found the tractor can't rip out much but it can get it clear enough to cut. I think I created at least 3 weekends of hand finish work in 5 hours.

8) Some folks say the BX24 idles rough. I thought it idled pretty smooth. Hood rattles a tad.

9) When you let go of HST Forward peddle or Reverse is it applying break?

10) I really like the turfs so far. They seem to be riding up on the sand nice. I also have to do a lot of tight turns in finished areas and it can be wet sometimes. Traction seems fine too.

11) I had filled the FEL with all the small stumps and roots. It was very light. and it was over filled, I new some might fall off in the trip to the trailer. But when I lifted it to put on trailer one teh root balls landed right on my shinny new hood. ****.

12) Couple times I just wanted to move the tractor a foot while using the backhoe. I didn't want to flip the seat around and back (flipping the seat gets old). But the second you touch the forward HST the motor dies. I assume this is a safety?

I had debated if I should go bigger (7610, 7800) but I'm limited on sheltered storage space. But after using it for a day I think it's the right size.

 

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13) I keep snagging my coat on the BackHoe controls. Dangerous !! I'll have to wear a baseball jacket or something.

 

[Berniep]

I don't have A 24 but I can answer a couple.
#1 Did you have the engine reved up?
#3 Fuel pump.
#4 Fuel cutoff thingy (technical term)
#8 Open the hood and watch it idle.
#9 No the brake is a separate thing, thats just hst in action.
#12 On the 23 I can move the pedal a tiny bit before the safety switch cuts the engine, I am able to move the tractor slowly.

 

[Skyco]

#12 Do NOT do this- it is NOT safe.
If you hold down the two switches under the seat with your fingers you can move the tractor with the forward/reverse pedal using your other hand if standing beside it or your foot if on it.
Again do NOT do this
But I'm not saying whether I ever have or not
It is possible to raise the outriggers and the FEL bucket and push it or pull it with the backhoe if you are going only a foot or two.

 

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I don't have A 24 but I can answer a couple.
#1 Did you have the engine reved up?
#3 Fuel pump.
#4 Fuel cutoff thingy (technical term)
#8 Open the hood and watch it idle.
#9 No the brake is a separate thing, thats just hst in action.
#12 On the 23 I can move the pedal a tiny bit before the safety switch cuts the engine, I am able to move the tractor slowly.

#1 Yes but not max because break in says not to go max for 50hr's. It was probably 2500-3000 RPM.

 

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#12 Do NOT do this- it is NOT safe.
If you hold down the two switches under the seat with your fingers you can move the tractor with the forward/reverse pedal using your other hand if standing beside it or your foot if on it.
Again do NOT do this
But I'm not saying whether I ever have or not
It is possible to raise the outriggers and the FEL bucket and push it or pull it with the backhoe if you are going only a foot or two.

Yeah I had been putting the FEL down for stability and gotta try keeping it up so I can use the back hoe to creep it. I did do that a couple times later on.

I agree, I kinda quickly got the idea it wasn't safe and I did manage to move it a bit by tapping HST a bit at a time. Probably not great for the whole system either. I'll avoid that technique. I think as the seat breaks in a little it will be quicker to swivel around. It's really stiff right now.

 

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Would it be bad to keep the bucket up so I can creep it with hoe or do you raise the buck it each time?

Please I need info on why I was stuck in sand with no wheels spinning. What happened? Is this normal? Perhaps it possibly was still in high because gears were under tension?

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Would it be bad to keep the bucket up so I can creep it with hoe or do you raise the buck it each time?

Please I need info on why I was stuck in sand with no wheels spinning. What happened? Is this normal? Perhaps it possibly was still in high because gears were under tension?

I'd run it some more before you start jumping to conclusions. It could be alot of things. Differential slipping the power to the side you where not looking at, hydrostatic going into relief, etc. Spend some more time in the seat running it before worrying about one specific instance.

Overall it sounds like its going well for you. You'll be surprised how much more it can do after you spend more time in the seat getting to know the little beast.

 

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I'd run it some more before you start jumping to conclusions. It could be alot of things. Differential slipping the power to the side you where not looking at, hydrostatic going into relief, etc. Spend some more time in the seat running it before worrying about one specific instance.

Overall it sounds like its going well for you. You'll be surprised how much more it can do after you spend more time in the seat getting to know the little beast.

Thanks Neil. I'm pretty sure I checked all 4 tires. If a wheel was turning in sand it will dig itself in and spray sand everywhere (pretty hard to miss), I'm all to familiar with that.

Does transmission need to break in, to bite internally?

I'll give it a little time. It seemed fine using FEL.

All I can think of is when I backed up to get a running start it dropped into low gear then.

 

[asylum575]

Congrats on the BX
I've got a whole two hours in the seat with mine. Delivered Friday, Thanks Neil.
I've been able to flatten two old flower beds and regrade alongside my garage. Both Projects would have been a day's work each with shovel and wheel barrel. Done in about 1 1/2 hours. Learned that the loader won't bite too much. Once i'm in, I have to coordinate forward with lifting and curling back. Once I got the hang of it, it was easy. It is by far my best PRODUCTIVITY TOOL, not toy.

 

[Skyco]

Thanks Neil. I'm pretty sure I checked all 4 tires. If a wheel was turning in sand it will dig itself in and spray sand everywhere (pretty hard to miss), I'm all to familiar with that.

No offense but no you aren't familiar with spraying sand on a BX At 8mph top speed you ain't gonna spray sand....

 

[Mike058]

It doesn't seem anybody asked him how hard he was pushing the pedal when he was trying to get more power. More pedal=higher gear=less power. Did I miss something?

 

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It doesn't seem anybody asked him how hard he was pushing the pedal when he was trying to get more power. More pedal=higher gear=less power. Did I miss something?

Thanks !!! Maybe that was the problem and what I need to get used to. I was pushing the pedal hard. I thought more pedal was more "engaged" (less slippage). I thought the only "gearing" was High and Low.

 

[Mike058]

This thread Terry on using the Treadle - TractorByNet.com goes over it well.

 

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I think that explains it. I had the pedal to the floor. Turned hard to the right which used some power for steering and climed up hill in the sand.

What's a little confusing was when I was backing it up into barn there is a good 4 inch step it hasto go up.

I was going easy on the pedal and it wasn't going. Finally I stepped on it and the boards under it kicked out and then it climbed a 6 inch step in stead of 4 (because the boards were now gone).

So I guess there must be a curve that is shaped like and upside down U. A really light touch didn't seem to fully engage. A modest touch will fully engage and go slow with high torque. And heavy touch will be fully engaged but low torque.

I can't wait to get back on it and experiment now.

 

[megaboz]

I've taken my with a FEL and BH up some very steep hills, so steep in fact that I had to brace myself with my leg and steering wheel to just stay in the seat. Of course I was going very slow, but it had no problem, other than a little traction issue.

The 24 isn't a super tractor, but it will get the work done, you just have to use a bit of ingunity (ok the spelling is wrong, but I still was able to graduate) and patience.

Also, I wouldn't use high range unless you are on the road, espeically if you have a load. Besides, I don't know about you but my kidneys can only take so much abuse.

 

[teachdocs]

The 24 isn't a super tractor, but it will get the work done, you just have to use a bit of ingunity (ok the spelling is wrong, but I still was able to graduate) and patience.

+1

 

[LBrown59]

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2) Wow this thing is fast !! With it throttle up in high gear going up hill, I hit a little bump in the road and It felt like it caught air. It was like a little dune buggy

2*hitting bumps or low places on a hill at high speed is the perfect combination for a roll over. >>

 

[LBrown59]

Also, I wouldn't use high range unless you are on the road, espeically if you have a load. Besides, I don't know about you but my kidneys can only take so much abuse.

I keep my BX23 in low range 99.95% of the time.

 

[LBrown59]

3*7) Digging out trees sucks. I found the tractor can't rip out much but it can get it clear enough to cut. I think I created at least 3 weekends of hand finish work in 5 hours.
4* But when I lifted it to put on trailer one of the root balls landed right on my shinny new hood. ****.
5*12) Couple times I just wanted to move the tractor a foot while using the back hoe. I didn't want to flip the seat around and back (flipping the seat gets old).
6*13) I keep snagging my coat on the Back Hoe controls. Dangerous !! I'll have to wear a baseball jacket or something.
7*Yeah I had been putting the FEL down for stability and gotta try keeping it up so I can use the back hoe to creep it. I did do that a couple times later on.
8*Would it be bad to keep the bucket up so I can creep it with hoe or do you raise the buck it each time?
9*Thanks !!! Maybe that was the problem and what I need to get used to. I was pushing the pedal hard. I thought more pedal was more "engaged" (less slippage). I thought the only "gearing" was High and Low.
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3*It don't if you know how to use the BH and go about it.
4*Ya don't lift the loader to high or roll bucket to far back when you have anything in the bucket that could roll off or spill out.
5*I don't flip the seat to move the tractor.
I just lift the bucket and stabilizers a couple of inches and place an 18''1x2 on the treadle petal while holding the other end with my left hand.
6*You just have to be careful about that when getting on and off and moving around.
That's why I never operate the tractor in the summer time with my shirt tail out.
8*You need to keep the bucket down on the ground for stability when digging with the Bh and only lift FEL slightly to move the tractor.