Newbie Help 3-point tool bar

[Spike56]

Just a reminder that at 55 hp. You will not be pulling many ripper’s or shanks with shovels very deep. It may also require multiple passes. Just straight rippers should be all you need.

A tool bar with rippers and interchange middle buster may require a few modifications. Putting a plow on would be impracticable due to the plow geometry. Your tractor should handle three to four bottoms on a plow.

Keep in mind that the toolbar can be fitted with different types of fittings for trailers or other pulling.

Yes, thanks. I had a 5 shank renovator at one time. NO WAY could use all 5 shanks. Maybe 3 IF AND ONLY IF the ground moisture was JUST perfect - which here is about 1 day per year. Even then, there is some nasty red clay under the top soil and the renovator shank would pull up a huge clod. Neighbors with looser soil / sand kept borrowing it, which I don't mind except I since I wasn't using much was a waste for me. So, sold it. Parts of my property are deep sand, others red clay, others mixed....
Again thanks for the reply.... First will check out the used tool bar and see $ of that.

 

[CoyPatton]

Yes, I agree. So again, just trying to get opinions from wise farm boys.
I do have a box blade (frontier model), but lowering the rippers all the way down - not quite enough depth for the deeper ripping. Will check the links you sent. Thanks !

Box-blade scarifiers are intended to break the surface up at a level where the box blade can scrape.
I have no ideal how deep you want to break the soil up, but if only a bit deeper than the scarifiers go, make your top link as short as possible. This will change the angles of the scarifiers as well as the box and could provide a couple of more inches of depth.
If you are want 6”+ of breakup then while it will take lots of runs, get a subsoiler. Do not get one rated for a small SCUT or CUT but spend the money for one rated for your larger tractor. They usually have a shear pin system built into them to protect both your tractor and the implement.
Do a search and you will find plenty of instances where someone bought a 30hp rated subsoiler and used on a utility tractor and bent the subsoiler (and did not get the job accomplished).

 

[Wyobuckaroo]

A number of years ago, I built a homemade 3pt "frame" 5' wide and about 3' long.. It would accommodate bolt on chisel shanks, row hiller wheels, cultivator shanks, thatch rake times..

Kind of a do-it-all set up, just add, subtract dirt engagement accessories.. Frankly at the time this was the best, easiest solution to many needs as there were not the variety of implements available.. And regardless of how expensive general and specialty attachments are now, the thing available then was out of this world expensive..

This is one of the frames I made and one way it was set up..

 

[Spike56]

Looks great !

 

[jeff9366]

I do have a box blade (frontier model), but lowering the rippers all the way down - not quite enough depth for the deeper ripping.

Tool Bar attachments that I am familiar with are for cultivating, which is tertiary cultivation of soil in good tilth.

Your objectives are ground breaking which requires more robust implement construction than any tool bar attachment clamps I am familiar with can withstand. Tool bar clamps are designed to be intentional failure points when heavy stress is applied.

 

[Spike56]

Jeff,
You are probably correct in your judgement here, but I cannot justify even a single shank sub-soiler rated for > 50HP. The units I have seen are about $600 for (say a King Kutter model). Interestingly, the "used one" locally that I am looking at has a single blade plow, and since it is "old" is a solid bar as opposed to tube steel.
Based on inputs from you and others, I have about given up - except if this used one is cheap enough. If so, I would consider mounting flat steel and give that a try ? Maybe.

 

[Egon]

A number of years ago, I built a homemade 3pt "frame" 5' wide and about 3' long.. It would accommodate bolt on chisel shanks, row hiller wheels, cultivator shanks, thatch rake times..

Kind of a do-it-all set up, just add, subtract dirt engagement accessories.. Frankly at the time this was the best, easiest solution to many needs as there were not the variety of implements available.. And regardless of how expensive general and specialty attachments are now, the thing available then was out of this world expensive..

This is one of the frames I made and one way it was set up..

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Very nice tool bar. Straight forward and simple. Easy to weld on different implement attach points.

A tool bar is not that complicated. Like the one shown an easy build with the right materials and very adaptable for many uses. There will be numerous uses it can be used for.

 

[RalphVa]

Agri Supply has what they call a Keulavator. They offer various tools to go onto it. I had an old JD M tool bar and bought some of their stuff to go onto it.

Ralph