Newbie terror, need experienced advice

   / Newbie terror, need experienced advice #61  
My CK 30 is only supposed to lift only 300 KG. I had to replace my front tyres with heavier ply ones as they were like soggy balloons when carrying stuff in the bucket. It was very unstable.
I actually rolled the tyres off the rims turning a couple of times prior to changing them.

(Yes, in Australia we spell tyres different)
 
   / Newbie terror, need experienced advice #62  
My CK 30 is only supposed to lift only 300 KG. I had to replace my front tyres with heavier ply ones as they were like soggy balloons when carrying stuff in the bucket. It was very unstable.
I actually rolled the tyres off the rims turning a couple of times prior to changing them.

(Yes, in Australia we spell tyres different)

That's because it is too hard to type ǝɹᴉʇ.

:)

Bruce
 
   / Newbie terror, need experienced advice #63  
That's because it is too hard to type ǝɹᴉʇ.

:)

Bruce

That's the craziest thing I've seen since I learned the difference between a French Kiss and an Australian Kiss :p
 
   / Newbie terror, need experienced advice #65  
I've had several category 9.5 - 10 pucker factor moments working with machinery.

When I was in high school, I had a job as an assistant mechanic for a pea harvest crew. One of my responsibilities was to make sure the combines knew where they were going, and to make sure nothing is wrong with the viners as they crawl though the fields. I worked the night crew, and it was the best job a 17yr old could have. One night in the field we dubbed the "Heck (with two 'L's instead of 'ck') Field" due to how steep the field was. The pea combines need to be 'level' in order to harvest properly. They do this automatically with hydraulics on each corner of the combine. They are slow to calibrate and automatically adjust. So at the top of the field, if an operator who has a full hopper, decides to turn around too quickly, not giving the levelers time to adjust, will tip over. Guess what happened almost EVERY NIGHT in that field?
Another thing that happened in the Heck Field was when I was driving my truck along the line of combines while they were going down the steep grade. I noticed the single white light (reverse light) on the back of one of the combines was turned on. Also, the backup beeper was beeping. But the combine was moving downhill, in forward. I suddenly realized what was happening and starting talking to the operator on the CB radio. The combines are hydrostatically driven with a lever, and the operator was scared so put the combine in REVERSE to maintain speed.... All Heck (and motors) broke loose as the combine narrowly avoided the machine in front of him and ran downhill uncontrolled without any hydraulic power! That was a long night.

Another eventful night for that harvest crew was in another (flatter) field out in the middle of nowhere, during a late night thunderstorm. When the lightning started getting close, I radioed to all the combines to stop, pick up their headers, shutoff their machines, and stay inside. The storm should pass rather quickly. One at a time, the bright lights of every combine in the field went dark. Except for the one, way over there, whom I forgot that I sent over there to open a new 'brake' in the field. He was so far away, he was out of radio range or had his music radio turned up so loud he didnt hear me. Either way, as I floored my truck in his direction, yelling at him on the radio to shutdown, I got about half way to him when BOOM!!.... I've never seen a lightning strike so close to me. The operator was ok, a bit shaken, and EMS was called to look him over, but the combine was not ok. It got loaded on a lowboy and taken to our shop where the mechanics totaled it as everything was fried.

That was the good ol days of my youth. More recent adventures where I suck the tractor seat up include getting that tippy feeling when side hilling, Tipping forward with too much in the FEL (or not enough on the back), tipping back while driving uphill and have too much on the back (and not enough in the front). Sliding sideways down the driveway while plowing snow. Watching the front axles sink into DEEP mud where you were not expecting mud. the side of the hill under the road fall away as you pass over it. The wheel start wobbling while doing a road move because you forgot to check the lug nut torque. Or coming to a complete stop while brush hogging your neighbors deep pasture grass because there is a stump he neglected to tell you about.

But living life in fear of death, to me, does not sound much like living. Take risks, just not unnecessary ones.
 
   / Newbie terror, need experienced advice #66  
One of the scariest things that happened to me in 35-40 years of operating heavy equip. was when the new L series tractors came out and I was working on a job in Co. doing overburden removal to develop an old under ground gold mine into an open pit operation. In the middle of a shift one day the Cat. mechanics had just finished assembling a brand new D-9L and brought it out onto the flat area where I was working. The foreman waved me over and said "Here's your new machine stay off the steep slopes until you get the feel for it". I was young but had close to 20 years operating so was excited. The Cat guys walked me around the machine and showed me the basics and told me that it would feel a lot different than the H series that we had been running. I got up in the seat and it seemed like I was 40' in the air but the visibility was incredible. I got comfortable real quick in the first ergonomic cab I'd ever been in and, as was customary on flat ground, I put it in 2nd gear and started moving forward keeping it slow with the decelerator. Just as I thought I was doing good I ran over a small rock hump on the mine floor with one track. I would have sworn that the machine was going to tip over because of the high seat. I nearly made a mess in that brand new seat. On these tractors the operators station is high but the engine and running gear are down between the tracks and they are very stable but it sure didn't feel like it. After about 1/2 hour it started to feel natural and by the end of the shift I was in love.But boy that first little bump had me grabbing leather with my cheeks.
 
   / Newbie terror, need experienced advice #67  
So the one thing to keep in mind is that even with "appropriate ballast" (e.g. when the tractor is straight on level ground, and the tractor is incapable of lifting the load) both the terrain and the tractor's maneuvering (or loader position) can change that pretty easily.

Turning the steering wheel can and will change how effective the ballast is ...especially when in motion (have had the wheel firmly on the ground, turned a corner and had a rear wheel lift off the ground before).

The other thing to consider with using implements that extend farther out the back is that (depending on the tractor's wheelbase) it's possible to turn the tractor into a bit of a bucking bronco as the load on the front and the ballast on the back can make the fulcrum point start shifting between the two axles (particularly if perturbed by driving over a bump).

So ultimately the most important piece of safety equipment a person can use is that thing between their ears as it's not possible (or practical) to cover all potentially dangerous situations with pre-existing rules. Of course even if it was possible to write them all down, odds are few would bother reading them given how few people seem to read the instructions/operators manuals (even if/when they are actually understandable and well written). :confused3:

Thankfully *most* things with tractors come back to concepts like levers, geometry, and basic physics that are pretty common in every day life (but may look different because of the equipment involved).
 
   / Newbie terror, need experienced advice #68  
One of the scariest things that happened to me in 35-40 years of operating heavy equip. was when the new L series tractors came out and I was working on a job in Co. doing overburden removal to develop an old under ground gold mine into an open pit operation. In the middle of a shift one day the Cat. mechanics had just finished assembling a brand new D-9L and brought it out onto the flat area where I was working. The foreman waved me over and said "Here's your new machine stay off the steep slopes until you get the feel for it". I was young but had close to 20 years operating so was excited. The Cat guys walked me around the machine and showed me the basics and told me that it would feel a lot different than the H series that we had been running. I got up in the seat and it seemed like I was 40' in the air but the visibility was incredible. I got comfortable real quick in the first ergonomic cab I'd ever been in and, as was customary on flat ground, I put it in 2nd gear and started moving forward keeping it slow with the decelerator. Just as I thought I was doing good I ran over a small rock hump on the mine floor with one track. I would have sworn that the machine was going to tip over because of the high seat. I nearly made a mess in that brand new seat. On these tractors the operators station is high but the engine and running gear are down between the tracks and they are very stable but it sure didn't feel like it. After about 1/2 hour it started to feel natural and by the end of the shift I was in love.But boy that first little bump had me grabbing leather with my cheeks.

Thanks for that great story, Jim. I have never operated anything close to that size and definitely enjoyed your insight.
 
   / Newbie terror, need experienced advice #69  
I've been on three wheels a few times in the last couple of days. On mostly level ground, so no real danger, but it still gets your attention when you're trying to dig out a bucket of dirt and one of rears comes up instead.
 
   / Newbie terror, need experienced advice #70  
OP - I'll echo the past posters and say that I think you are being reasonably cautious and right to be scared. Get some ballast on that machine asap. I typically use my brush cutter 'cause its heavy and sticks way out back. And its the most used implement I have.

In my middle years now and I'm much more timid with equipment. It takes a split second to get into a bad situation that can send you and a piece of heavy iron careening somewhere. I have more stupidity stories than I care to share.

Stay with TBN here and you'll learn a lot about your tractor, your attachments and how to do things the right way and the safe way.
 

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