NO automatic payments!

   / NO automatic payments! #42  
I use paypal to run credit cards for my customers. Been doing it for years. Never any issues. I could always switch to square if they try pulling garbage like that again. Last few years iv purchased items using amazon alot more times than ive used ebay…like 10-1. Amazon just has easier returns and usually better prices.
 
   / NO automatic payments! #44  
I sell on Amazon, the amount of returns that I have to eat are 10 to 1 other platforms.
Well, i ordered a pair of muck boots on amazon last month. In a couple of days sole of boot tore. Contacted amazon and they told me to take it to UPS store, and ups will box, ship and amazon paid shipping. Then amazon sent me new boots. Very easy to do. My last return on ebay was a nightmare. Making me contact seller and hash it out for a month.
 
   / NO automatic payments! #45  
yes, but the sellers have to eat that return shipping as well, in the case damaged items fine..... the number of ridiculous returns is nuts. and people wonder why prices have to be set so high.
 
   / NO automatic payments! #46  
Auto payments for everything.
If a manual payment is required, I’m not signing up for service.

Many items are discounted for the auto ACH payment.

I’m very in tune with money in/out.

I write less than 5 checks a year with the goal of 0 checks…
 
   / NO automatic payments! #47  
Auto payments for everything.
If a manual payment is required, I’m not signing up for service.

Many items are discounted for the auto ACH payment.

I’m very in tune with money in/out.

I write less than 5 checks a year with the goal of 0 checks…
Auto renewal is not about payment method - check, ach, cash, credit card, but about signing up for a service and permitting the use of your bank account or credit card giving them the access to withdraw from your account endlessly.

I have signed up some that were very easy to terminate the service and payment if you choose to do so. BUT there have also been several that you must take extreme measures to stop. It is always interesting how some services show you 10 pages of how to sign up for a service and a hidden line somewhere about how to stop auto renew.

I use a lot of services with auto renew. But I refuse to sign up it they DO NOT clearly and readily make access to the ability to cancel auto-renew. I also sign up for the service, then cancel auto renewal within the first week. Then next year I receive an email notice that it is about end asking me if I wish to continue. If I do, I pay, and again cancel auto renewal within the first week.

THAT had been my experience with SXM. I NEVER want to grant permanent access to any of my financial accounts to anyone.

If you have a family pass away, that is the second instruction regarding paperwork behind getting number of death cert. ---close all accounts to stop withdrawals.

I may or may not choose to retain the service for another service billing period. Next year they may double the bill. For example - Some security software (computer) companies charge around $100 when auto renewed. NOT THE SPECIAL pricing advertised at $39.

I always choose to retain the option to continue a service at the price required or make the decision to go elsewhere.

The pandemic has changed the way I pay. All on credit card paid at the end of the month (on payday). I no longer use cash or use checks. Used to use mostly checks.

I have come to the conclusion that the exchange of money is simply consenting to the exchange (verification). It is just numbers. Allowing someone to change numbers in your account. That is why access without options is dangerous. I could see checks disappearing and maybe eventually currency. But there are people who do not have bank accounts and need currency.
 
   / NO automatic payments! #48  
OK, I'm confused. I thought Paypal was simply an online payment service. What kind of "misinformation" can a user spread? The only thing I can think of would be something fraudulent like linking it to a stolen credit card or in the case of a seller regularly misrepresenting the merchandise.
Or are they, like seemingly everyone else also a social media site now?
 
   / NO automatic payments! #49  
Am I the only one who doesn't allow these? I have done so in the past with disastrous results... on one occasion I had to close out my checking account to stop them. That was years ago yet it now seems to be normal... I still can't bring myself to do it.
I would rather pay a year in advance than give somebody unlimited access to my finances.
Among other things I have to wonder how many people are paying for "services" they stopped using long ago. Granted that's their fault for not paying attention to their statements, yet still isn't right.
I've even had "exit questionaires" with that as one of the questions. Sirius for one, yet they still haven't done away with it, despite trying to get me back for the last 3 years.
I signed up for access to the local newspaper, not realizing I was agreeing to automatic withdrawals. It turns out that what they consider "news" is mostly opinion, and I get better local news from my MSN news feed. Go figure...
Didn't read through the thread but like you, we NEVER do auto pay on anything. Every piece of financed farm equipment either comes with a payment book or the finance company send out a payment due notice. I don't trust anyone with my personal financial info.
 
   / NO automatic payments! #50  
OK, I'm confused. I thought Paypal was simply an online payment service. What kind of "misinformation" can a user spread? The only thing I can think of would be something fraudulent like linking it to a stolen credit card or in the case of a seller regularly misrepresenting the merchandise.
Or are they, like seemingly everyone else also a social media site now?

This whole thing has been poorly reported, like most issues today. This really affected only merchant accounts (the people whole take Paypal payments) and not user (buyer) accounts. The Paypal agreement always prohibited illegal activities, but it was extended to include support of postings that were harassing, misinformation, etc.

The impact of this was that news/opinion/political sites that charged for access or accepted donations via Paypal would be subject to large fines if, in Paypal's judgment, they posted misinformation. Paypal said they were going to do it, then said they were not, and now I'm not sure where they stand on it.
 

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