No fuel out of fuel pump

   / No fuel out of fuel pump #11  
another thing to try while your at it is to- after checking the pump for oil and replacing it (i use the engine oil with a little marvel mystery oil mixed in when mine when it was a little sticky- the mystery oil is very good at freeing up rusted parts)

fully advance the throttle and then return to about 1/2 throttle -

do the pump bleed and plunger prime-close it
and crank the engine -
any smoke out the exhaust or engine firing going on??
 
   / No fuel out of fuel pump #12  
I have preached this 'til I'm blue in the face and yet nobody seems to listen. Last time.

1) The fuel injection pump and governor share a common oil sump. The only things that get lubricated by this oil are the camshaft lobes that lift the individual plungers, the eccentric cam that operates the lift pump push rod, rotating governor parts, and the rack. Since engine oil provides the highest shear strength between the cam lobes and plungers, it is the oil recommended by most manufacturers. Additives, if you will, are a waste of money here and provide no real advantage since there is no combustion taking place here, hopefully.

2) There is no direct mechanical connection between the fuel rack and the throttle rod bell crank except for the no fuel (stop) position. When you move the throttle without the engine running (governor turning) you are forcing the speeder spring against the flyweights in order to move the rack, and you will get very little movement at that because the buffer spring will prevent it. It's not a carbureted engine with a float bowl full of fuel - pumping the throttle does absolutely nothing except put abnormal wear and tear on the governor.

3) If you have a sticking rack it is probably caused by a seized or seizing barrel and plunger assembly (the individual high pressure fuel pumps). This symptom is almost always caused by dirty or contaminated fuel (water, diesel bugs). They are not sold separately. Keep your fuel as clean and fresh as possible

4) If you have fuel in your fuel injection pump oil (cross contamination) you have a leaking barrel and plunger assembly. There are no seals to replace, they are lap fitted and lubricated by fuel oil (a sulfur additive to the fuel is highly desirable).

Here is a cutaway of a Bosch inline injection pump All the Chinese pumps are very similar, if not identical.
Diesel Injection Pump Cut-Away, with Inline 4 and Pneumatic Governor, Bosch - NADA Scientific
 
   / No fuel out of fuel pump
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#13  
To all above, thanks. I am beginning to see how this thing works. Pulled my back out Thanksgiving day while reaching across a suitcase. Spent more time with relatives than intended(recovering). As soon as rain quits sometime this coming week, I will return to farm and study this animal some more.
Hope all had a good Thanksgiving.
 
   / No fuel out of fuel pump
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#14  
How do I check the oil level in fuel pump? There is a rubber oil filler plug at the very front of pump. If pulled, there is nothing there but an elbow oil passage.

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   / No fuel out of fuel pump #15  
How do I check the oil level in fuel pump? There is a rubber oil filler plug at the very front of pump. If pulled, there is nothing there but an elbow oil passage.

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That is for adding engine oil. I see there isn't any dipstick, so you should have a short 6mm bolt on the side of the pump slightly below the centerline that is removed to check the level. Oil is added by removing the vent (the dome shaped device at top right). Oil is drained from the injection pump/governor by removing a short 6mm bolt on the bottom. Note: Not all fuel injection pumps will have a drain bolt, in which case it's necessary to suction the oil out.
 
   / No fuel out of fuel pump #16  
Here is a picture of the fuel pump on my 284 that may help.
RonJ
InjectorMaintenanceLocations.jpg
 
   / No fuel out of fuel pump
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#17  
Noticed the vent cap before while looking at pump, but did not know what it was. Tried to lift it off with some pressure. Looked under it and saw it had a nut below it. Do I remove vent cap by unscrewing the large nut below it? Will try to find drain plugs Click on photo in above post to blow it up.
 
   / No fuel out of fuel pump #18  
Yes, the nut at the bottom is how to remove vent cap.
 

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