Nonstick for dump trailer

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DUSTMAKER

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I bought a new dump trailer recently and after dumping about a dozen times with four different materials it seams a lot of them stick in the trailer. Bark and dirt seam to stick the most. This trailer only tilts to about 40 degrees, is that about normal for a small dump trailer 7x10 with single acting cylinders, or should I have researched this more? Is there a material I could spray or lay in the bottom that would allow the material to slide better? Any help would be appreciated .
Thanks
 
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I wouldn't try spraying anything. Would probably just add to the problem. Don't know about any of the bed liner products, if they would work or not. We have a dump trailer too and rock slides ok but like you say dirt, especialy if it's damp does'nt like to slide. Wish they tilted up more too. Many people use polyethylene liners. Same material used on the under side of shoes on combine heads. It wears well and NOTHING sticks to it. Not real cheap either if you need much. Most plastic distributors should stock 4X8 sheets. 1/8" thick would do. There are 2 grades most common, HDPE (High density polyethylene) and UHMW (Ultra high molecular weight) You would only need HDPE, its the least expensive. Would have to bolt it in.
 
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just a thought, i use old p/u truck bed liners for all kinds of stuff, you can go to just about any auto dealer that sells used trucks and pick them up from around the dumpster. cut them to size and screw them to the bed of your trailer. the ribs and the plastic they are are made of help things slide around on them so might be a good idea and you wont be out anything but time.
 
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I'll second Paul's suggestion on the dump truck liner. You'll find it wherever they sell/install truck bodies. A layer on the floor should do the trick.
 
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The average dump trailer angle is 45deg, my little dump trailer is at 45deg which is all I could get out of it since the actuator is a little short.

I wanted 50deg but 45 does work.
 
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The bed on my 5 yard dump truck is probably as old as the truck, which is a 1983 model. It's rusted and ribbed on the bottom from years and years of use. With dry material, it slides out fine, but if the clay has any moisture at all, it sticks real bad. Each load gets worse, and if I keep at it, I can go from dumping 5 yards, to less then one yard with over 4 yards sticking to the bed.

Some days, I've had to shovel out the corners every four to five loads. It was really frustrating.

I did a search and read an article on HeavyEquiptmentForums.Com in the trucks section. dirt sticks in the dump box - Heavy Equipment Forums

The cheapest fix without welding or replacing the bed is a paint type product called Hammerite Rust Cap, smooth finish. I bought one gallon of it for $74 plus shipping. Search: hammerite

I used over half the gallon, but I also put it on really thick with a small roller. It's miserably sticky and aweful stuff to work with. It gets on everything and doesn't wash off. Thinner didn't help either. The next day, it dried to a glossy, smooth finish. I've hauled about 400 yards with it since putting it on and there is no sign of wear, and I no longer have any sticking issues. It's truly an amazing product!!!!

From what the guy at Heavy Equipment Forums said, he puts on a fresh coat every year. He's a pro and hauls every day. I move dirt off and on, but never every day. My bed is in really bad shape, so that might affect how long it lasts too. Right now, I just don't know, but if I had to do it once a month, it would be worth it to me.

Good luck,
Eddie
 
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Thanks for the information everyone.
Eddie thanks for the link I think I will try that hammer coating first before the uhmw lining.
Much appreciated everyone.
Paul
 
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I'm really impressed with how well the Hammerite sticks to my bed and how smooth it is. I've thought about coating my backhoe bucket with it to see if wet clay will come out better, but so far, it's just a thought I have for the rest of the bucket.

I never thought about a mower deck, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. For the price of a quart, it sure couldn't hurt anything and just might be the ideal solution. Let us know if you give it a try and how it works out for you.

Eddie
 
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I have hammerite on my deck. Well its actually called "smoothrite" but made by the same manufacturer. Only difference is it doesn't have the hammered look once it dries. It has a tough almost enamel finish which doesnt chip when it gets hit by stones. It has been on there 2 years now and in my opinion it has held up very well. I still get an accumulation depending on the moisture content of the lawn clippings, but it falls off easy once the accumulation dries out.
 
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Eddie how long do I need to let the Hammerite cure? I put it on about 27 hours ago and it is smooth and glossy but if I rub my hand over the dust that has settled on the bed it scratches the surface and dulls it up. So far not very impressed. I need to haul a load of sand tomorrow I hope it has curred enough by then.
Paul
 
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I don't remember exactly how many hours you have to let it cure, but I'm sure you have waited long enough. Mine isn't shiny anymore either, but then I've run hundreds of yards of red clay over my bed, so I can't say to how easy it loses it's shine.

Let us know how it works out for you. I'm very pleased with it and have recomended it to several people.

Eddie
 
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DUSTMAKER said:
Eddie how long do I need to let the Hammerite cure? ..snip.. I need to haul a load of sand tomorrow I hope it has curred enough by then.
Paul
Paul... how did this work out for you? I am hoping to find something that will help keep the grass from sticking on my Husky deck. The design is not the best, and after 7 years most of the paint is gone compounding the problem.
 
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I moved 160 yards of fairly dry clay yesterday without any sticking. Even with the dirt being fairly dry, I used to have some build up in the corners, but it slides out so quickly with the Hammerite finish that it pulls everything out.

Eddie
 
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EddieWalker said:
I moved 160 yards of fairly dry clay yesterday without any sticking. Even with the dirt being fairly dry, I used to have some build up in the corners, but it slides out so quickly with the Hammerite finish that it pulls everything out.

Eddie
Great link. Thanks Eddie! Couple questions:
1] Is the hammered finish a rough/mottled texture, or smooth with a rough look?
2] Did you use hammered or smooth for your anti stick results?

Thx, larry
 
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I bought the glossy, smooth finish. I saw that they sell a hammerd finish, but I don't know anything about it. Mine is like black glass, or plastic type of finish.

I'm so pleased with it that if I had to, I'd do it again several times a year. It's holding up so well, that I have no idea when I'll have to do it again, but from the time and aggrivation that I've saved by not having to shovel out the packed in dirt that wouldn't come out, I'm going to keep applying it as needed.

Eddie
 
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Jim so far I have not dumped anything that would have stuck before, pee gravel and sand. The test will be bark and top soil. I will post again when I have had a chance for a real test. I do know that only the areas untouched by the loads are still shinny, the rest is dull and scratched already.
Paul
 
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Eddie I have a 6 by 12 Bri mar dump trailer What prep work was necessary and how far did a gallon go for you ? Did you just do the floor or did you do the sides also ? Thanks V
 

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