nortrac 204

   / nortrac 204 #21  
If I opened up a can of worms from the past, then I apologize to everyone. I don't know either of these two people nor do I have any affiliation to Bruce or his dealer ship.
I can however try to point out where there may be a problem. The pricing on these tractors seem to run from one extreme to the other. While a Jinma, NorTrac, and Farm Pro may all be pretty much the same tractor, their price structure seems wide spread. Why one dealer may be willing to sell for hundreds of or a thousand dollars less than another is beyond me.
However, to me, it is my money, if I can purchase the same product for less money, why would I over pay? On the other hand, it is my money and I want to make sure the seller is above board and legit. I'm old school at heart. I like to see and touch what I am buying and place a face with the person I am dealing with. Today, we have the advantage of New School...........the Internet. But the Internet takes away the personal aspects of purchasing. This seems to be the trade for saving some money and price shopping dealers via the net.
I was looking at a tractor earlier on Ebay, felt uneasy about the operation. Their feedback just didn't make any sense. However after a few conversations I wouldn't have any problem doing business with them. After communicating he even agreed to hold the tractor for pick up for 10 days, no deposit, and pay on delivery
However the Internet has opened the doors of opportunity to many people who with a little creativity are more than willing to relieve you of your money. The media has been more than willing to point out how easy it is to get taken advantage of.
If you are a potential buyer, check out your selling dealer to the best of your ability. Inquire for references, ask for feedback on this board. Ask the selling dealer if he will hold the tractor until you can get there and then pay cash. Or be willing to make a small deposit and pay the balance upon your taking delivery.
If you are a dealer, maybe even more so if you are a price cutting dealer, be aware that the media has made the public into untrusting, cautious, and somewhat scared in dealing with what we can't touch and buying from a person we can't put a face to. We are only trying to protect ourselves.........and the sad part is we don't even know from who.
Bottom line is buyers don't want to over pay or be taken advantage of.
Dealers want to move inventory and turn a reasonable profit. Dealers get asked plenty of questions, hear many, many stories and may become somewhat skeptical as to who they are dealing with. Trust needs to be earned, by both parties.
Sorry, I have rambled on, again if I opened a can of worm.
Bruce, I know you have been dealing in these tractors for a long time. You have received may recommendation in the past, I would have no problems dealing with you, were you closer to Texas.
 
   / nortrac 204 #22  
Don't know why I feel compelled to but in here. I don't know Bruce but I am also a dealer and I do sell a few on ebay. I have noticed that the general public often confuses the starting bid as an offer to sell at that price. This is an auction and as the fat lady say's it isn't over till its over (guess it aint over till the fat lady sings isn't it)

You need a low starting bid to get attention, but you cant stay in business if you give away. It is the world of ebay and it is different in many ways from the real world.

Bruce, how many offers of cashiers "cheques" from foreign buyers are you getting? I have had dozens on my chippers!

It is a different world...
 
   / nortrac 204 #23  
Are you in Texas jonrjen?? We are if we can help you with anything

Tommy
Affordable Tractor Sales web page
 
   / nortrac 204 #24  
Oh you mean " I will pay you 5X the price you want via Western Union blah blah, if you end your auction early" Where do these people come from?
 
   / nortrac 204 #25  
Hi Bluechip: I have a 284 listed for sale and have been dodging the overseas offers to "Overpay" me and send "real" money on to someone else. Do they think were stupid??I told him after Buying my crate tractor,assembling it.waxing and polishing it I wasn't interested in selling it to someone I couldn't be sure would care for it as I did! That ended his offers. It was fun anyway! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / nortrac 204 #26  
Back to the original question... NorTrac and good? I bought one from them this past summer and yes the price has gone up some, but I felt I made a good purchase. Good tech support, good parts supply, good assembly, etc. Must remember the shipping is included right to your door.

I realize there are a good many dealers who pitch in on this board and credit goes out to them too. I may have purchased one from one of these dealers, but live in the middle of near nothing so the cost of shipping and tele support slanted me towards Nortrac. So, dealer guys please don't flame me /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif your a great asset to the industry.
 
   / nortrac 204 #27  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( bruce, did you check your emails from about a month ago. )</font>

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( At this point, I don't want you as a customer )</font>

Yikes!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Wow.. from the perspective of a casual poster my shields just went up and red flags poppe dout everywhere.

I'm afraid that looks like a blow-off! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Jbdillon. Looks like you need to go find yourself another dealer. This one seems to have enough customers already.

I was actually on the fence about this thread, as there are always two sides of a story.. however these two points are pretty pertanint. You pointed out you did send email.. and then were blown off.

At this point, you know you won't get a fair shake from this guy reguardless /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif.

Other than the high dollar 'new' big-3' units.. what else other than jinma have you considered? ( other chineese? or imports.. like tafe.. or eicher.. or mahindra? - or even used domestic? / grey imports??

I too have been looking at these chineese units. I saw some just this weekend at a tractor show. The dealer there needed anger management... I guess it is a 'common' problem. I was going to test drive another one, as it has been 2 years since my last test drive.. I had been looking forward to it, as the fiberglass looked much better than some units I had seen. Also.. no fuel leaks, and no leaking grease fittings. Welds looked much cleaner, as well as handles/levers and controlls.

I've been down the grey market route, as well as the used domestic, and even antique domestic route.

Soundguy
 
   / nortrac 204 #28  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( but I felt I made a good purchase. Good tech support, good parts supply, good assembly, etc )</font>

Northern is a huge company. With that, you get a good safe feeling for support. You pay a tad higher price than for a local 'roadside' dealer.. but then you may feel less safe about the deal.

I collect antique tractors, etc.. and even use them for some of the day to day stuff on my farm. However for real work.. so far I have went with a dealer I can trust for support.. it makes all the difference .

Soundguy
 
   / nortrac 204 #29  
I sort of stumbled on this after the fact and I'll add my two cents for what its worth. First of all Bruce is legit, I have exchanged emails with him about tractors (what is in stock, prices etc) recently. I stopped by his place on Sunday and looked the tractors over a bit and his place looks like the pictures on ebay. So that ebay ad was an actual dealer selling an actual Jinma 204 tractor, etc. I can't speak for differences in the Jinma 204 and the Nortrac 204 but a little internet searching on specs would help figure that out.

I will also say that I had trouble recently with emails within ebay. I made a purchase for my wife and the seller and I ended up having words (via email) before the transaction was complete. It turns out that ebay was having trouble routing emails and she never got my questions. Bruce had his email address listed with the item so the gentelman from OH may have emailed him directly; in that case I don't have an answer for unanswered email.

If I buy a Jinma I'll most likely buy it from Bruce. I am about 10 miles from him and I probably would not consider him if I were 500 miles away.
 
   / nortrac 204 #30  
I think it is smart to be close/driving distance to your dealer. That way.. warranty isues aren't a hassle. I was having a discussion with a few others about a similar topic.. that is.. buying from remote or local dealers.. and warranty issues.

Soundguy
 

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