Not free firewood....but close

   / Not free firewood....but close #31  
How do you know it's a gallon ? Or in the case of gasoline, you've pumped it in your tank, and you're willing to trust that the pump measures it correctly ?

Most wood is delivered, not a pile in somebody's yard. The purpose of weights and measures laws are to keep sellers honest to attempt to prevent cheating buyers.

Are you saying all wood should be piled in cord units?
Do you see how ridiculous it is to say "I'll buy that load/pile/rick/face of wood for $200", but then have the government say "You can't say that! You have to say I'll give you $200 for (what I think is) 1.3498 cords?" Or would I only be able to buy 1 cord and have to leave the .3498 cords behind?

Or maybe I have to say "I will pay you $148.17 per cord for 1.3498 cords, totaling $200!"

Saying wood must be sold by the cord is all semantics.

There's so much estimating and other factors that go on when buying wood, that the unit of measurement doesn't matter.

There's the air gaps (are they rounds, or halved or quartered, etc.., there's moisture content, age, type of wood, btu content, bark condition, dirty or clean, pick-up or delivery, etc...
Having standardize measurement unit (a cord) makes no sense, when there's so many other factors.
 
   / Not free firewood....but close #32  
Between the storm damage and the power company clearing the lines you can pick up all the cut to length firewood you want for free around here. Just have to drive along any power line and pick up the piles they left behind. Not that anyone needs firewood around here but they may want to stock it for next year.

I imagine people buying firewood want it split, delivered, and ready to burn. There has been someone spamming CL for firewood at $100 per truck load delivered and stacked in my neck of the woods. He might have run out of different email accounts since everyone has been flagging his posts.
 
   / Not free firewood....but close #33  
Are those full cords, ric or face? That is a lot of wood either way. I have a big dry pile, split and stacked on concrete under a roof and sprayed with insecticide for ants etc..

The question is, will old wood rot in my case if not used in 5-10 years. It seems I take from 1 side for a year or two then switch sides the next year. I replenish with split wood and never seem to get to the middle of the pile.

If you keep it dry and off of the dirt, maybe spray a little insecticide around the bottom of the stack once a year, it should last a hundred years. ;)
 
   / Not free firewood....but close #34  
I see no confusion or scamming by using the proper definition of measure. A face cord is 1/3 of a full cord...it always has been. In my area, everyone I know refers to a face cord as a cord. Just local custom but I learned it quickly. Unless we talk about a loggers cord. Loggers cords are 4'x8' with logs about 100" long. at least that was the length of my last order.

There is one guy here sells that firewood 15" long. He says it is to avoid getting complaints about the wood being too long for some of the smaller stoves. But he does not charge less per face cord so he nets about 6% more....that is a bit of scamming.

Use the nomenclature common in your area when selling firewood. It is not rocket surgery.
 
   / Not free firewood....but close #35  
Let it dry for now come November you'll gets some bits.
 
   / Not free firewood....but close #36  
Rick is another of those terms dreamed up to scam buyers of wood just like "face cord", "load", "pile",etc.

We sold 40 cord a year when I was growing up and never heard of a rick so ya I figured it was a made up thing..
 
   / Not free firewood....but close #37  
Are you saying all wood should be piled in cord units?
Do you see how ridiculous it is to say "I'll buy that load/pile/rick/face of wood for $200", but then have the government say "You can't say that! You have to say I'll give you $200 for (what I think is) 1.3498 cords?" Or would I only be able to buy 1 cord and have to leave the .3498 cords behind?

Or maybe I have to say "I will pay you $148.17 per cord for 1.3498 cords, totaling $200!"

Saying wood must be sold by the cord is all semantics.

There's so much estimating and other factors that go on when buying wood, that the unit of measurement doesn't matter.

There's the air gaps (are they rounds, or halved or quartered, etc.., there's moisture content, age, type of wood, btu content, bark condition, dirty or clean, pick-up or delivery, etc...
Having standardize measurement unit (a cord) makes no sense, when there's so many other factors.

The govt doesn't restrict you from offering to buy anything. The restriction is on the seller. A standard unit of measurement is set for most items.....in the case of wood, SOME States have set that as a cord.....or some fraction thereof......just like you can buy a 1/2 gallon or quart or pint of milk.

Around here, the 'standard' (I don't believe Tennessee has set the cord as a standard) is "a pickup load".....well WHAT the heck is that ??

I call one guy, I get a heaping long, wide bed, throw in. I call another, get a short bed throw in. I call a 3rd, get a Toyota bed stacked. What way is there for the consumer to make a choice. If I buy milk, I don't get it by "the bucket".
 
   / Not free firewood....but close #38  
Are you saying all wood should be piled in cord units?
Do you see how ridiculous it is to say "I'll buy that load/pile/rick/face of wood for $200", but then have the government say "You can't say that! You have to say I'll give you $200 for (what I think is) 1.3498 cords?" Or would I only be able to buy 1 cord and have to leave the .3498 cords behind?

Or maybe I have to say "I will pay you $148.17 per cord for 1.3498 cords, totaling $200!"

Saying wood must be sold by the cord is all semantics.

There's so much estimating and other factors that go on when buying wood, that the unit of measurement doesn't matter.

There's the air gaps (are they rounds, or halved or quartered, etc.., there's moisture content, age, type of wood, btu content, bark condition, dirty or clean, pick-up or delivery, etc...
Having standardize measurement unit (a cord) makes no sense, when there's so many other factors.

The legal definition of a cord of hardwood is 85 cubic feet of solid wood. A cord of softwood is 96 cubic feet of solid wood. Stacked including air space, it's 128 cubic feet. These standards were established decades ago, to provide a standard for people to rely on; a lot of wood was measured, to establish those standards. That's important a state like Maine, which is very dependent on the wood industry. If Joe Blow dumps "2 1/2 cords" of firewood and you aren't home to inspect it, that's the standard that you can expect; just as you don't need to measure 100 gallons of heating oil when it's delivered, or 10 gallons of gas when you pump it into your pickup.
 
   / Not free firewood....but close #40  
Firewood is the least valuable forest product there is; yet it's also the one with the most complaints. Apparently there is some merit to having standards.
 

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