Not the clutch!

   / Not the clutch!
  • Thread Starter
#11  
How does the fork fasten to the cross shaft? Pinch bolt with a dimple in the shaft? Keyway with key stock? Roll pin (hope not)? If you can't get enough adjustment using the pedal free play adjustment to get the clutch to release properly (and the problem was present with the previous clutch) I'm still betting the issue is between the cross shaft and the fork.
Attached with roll pin. They are intact, removed and replaced because I could, forks have a little wear nothing major. Makes sense about the cross shaft because I could tell the difference in the clutch pedal, felt like the clutch was slowly going away. I’ll remove it and check to see if it hasn’t somehow twisted or something. Thank for the reply!
 
   / Not the clutch!
  • Thread Starter
#12  
Fork is fastened with roll pin to cross shaft. I pulled out cross shaft and forks, all looks solid, a little ware on forks and throw out bearing but nothing crazy. With the clutch pedal all the way down and linkage adjusted as far as it can, I’m stumped!
 
   / Not the clutch! #13  
Well it's obvious SOMETHING changed. The clutch was working fine one day and suddenly it's like this. You've changed the pressure plate and gain nothing. That says the problem must be in the geometry of the linkage between the clutch pedal and the cross shaft, the cross shaft and the fork, the fork and throw out bearing and/or the sleeve it ride on. No matter how many ideas get floated past you here, you're still the only one looking at it.

As a general rule whenever I have a tractor split (for clutch repair of any kind) before I roll it together I will take a tape measure and measure from the tractor split mating surface back the contact surface of the pressure plate release levers. Whatever that takes. Sometimes it requires getting a little "creative". Then do the same measuring from the split surface to the face of the throw out bearing. If the two measurements aren't within 1/8" of each other with room in the pedal adjustment to go both ways I stop right there and find out why.
 
   / Not the clutch! #14  
Jumped on the old Yanmar, it’s been a while, and the clutch would not disengage to shift. Figured stuck clutch, ran it around trying to unstick it but no luck. Clutch pedal felt very easy? Decided to just get a new clutch kit and fix a few other leaks while I have it down. Pulled the motor, removed the clutch and it did look like it had been stuck but a lot of left over meat on the disk. Installed the clutch kit put the motor back in but the clutch pedal feels the same, I can push it down with my hand with ease? Checked all the linkage and pins were in tack and all looked good. Put it in the air and was able to turn the tires in neutral, stopped in gear, pushed in the clutch still couldn’t turn the wheels? Seems to me nothing changed? That easy clutch pedal worries me even after adjusting. Any ideas or checks that can locate the issue? Thanks!
I don't know what is involved with a 'Clutch Kit' but it sounds like a bent or broken 'Clutch Fork' or a failed Pressure plate.
 
   / Not the clutch! #15  
Some pictures would be nice. Sheared roll pins are the number one suspect, for sure. You've verified them all, so we can move on.

The crank arm attached to cross shaft, does it move up and down with the clutch pedal? I'm not particularly familiar with this tractor, but I assume the crank arm should be moving at least 3-4", measured at the linkage end. If the crank arm is moving in sync with the clutch pedal, then I would be suspicious that the crank arm has somehow spun on the cross shaft. Looking at an old video of a clutch replacement on YouTube, it would appear that the correct orientation of the crank arm is parallel with the roll pin that holds the clutch fork.

1749733436581.png
 
   / Not the clutch! #16  
Could it be something as simple as the pivot point for the clutch pedal being bent or broken?
 
   / Not the clutch! #17  
Could it be something as simple as the pivot point for the clutch pedal being bent or broken?
Actually happened with my loader control, once. Took a few minutes looking at all the linkage, wondering why the stick was all sloppy despite everything else being tight, until I caught the pivot point wobbling.
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

2007 AMSIG S/A Solar Towable Message Board (A46683)
2007 AMSIG S/A...
2014 UTILITY 53X102 DRY VAN TRAILER (A45678)
2014 UTILITY...
2015 Toyota Prius C Hybrid Hatchback (A46684)
2015 Toyota Prius...
Quick Attach Loader Plate (A49251)
Quick Attach...
2016 Ram 4500 Crew Cab Landscape Dump Truck (A46683)
2016 Ram 4500 Crew...
Hi-Lift 6ft. x 16ft. Dual Pen Hydraulic Lift Livestock Cart (A49339)
Hi-Lift 6ft. x...
 
Top