Now I have really gone and done it

   / Now I have really gone and done it #21  
woodlandfarms said:
Say no more. was a real nightmare getting this out of the woods...


Carl.

I don't doubt that this could happen, with the conditions that you use the machine. I believe you are giving your machine a through workout, due to your landscape, and aggressive use . Even though the machine articulates plus or minus 45 degrees, it also oscillates plus or minus 12 degrees. If you are on level ground, you have equal force on the pin connecting the cylinder to the frame. When you are at the 12 degree limit, you are putting the same forces on the top or bottom of the pin, giving it a twisting action. Couple that with an inferior weld, and guess what, bam {darn the luck }.

Like some one else said, beef up the area with say 3/8 or 1/2 plate steel, and have a good welder use his expertise to lay in a good weld. I think that I would go ahead and do the other side also.

I believe someone else on the forum also twisted off the cylinder mount on a 425.

You might keep one of those JIC male to male fittings on the machine to couple the hoses on the broke cylinder so you can make it back home.
 
   / Now I have really gone and done it #22  
woodlandfarms said:
Thanks for the info on the cylinder. Will keep that in mind, but hopefully there is no next time.

Drove the tractor into town on the weld I did last night. Turn while you are moving, not stopped. That was the motto.

Interesting to drive this thing in town. Lots of looks and questions. But everyone thought it was a logging vehicle of some sort...
One thing about it you are learning your machine inside out with all of the work that you have been doing to it. I am glad you still like your machine and all of the potential that it has. I also have a lincoln ac/dc welder I like mine real well but like you I am not a professional weldor either.
 
   / Now I have really gone and done it
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#23  
$535..... There goes my sprayer. Not sure if I was taken or not on this. The work looks good, 7.5 hrs of labor...

Basically he cut the ears off the jagged piece. Welded it onto a patch. Then welded the patch in. He then put a 3/8" plate behind the whole wall, and then used some sort of special torch to create holes in the back plate so he could then not only weld the edges, but weld the two pieces together to make them stronger.

I also had the other side gusseted as well...

Seems to work... will post pix if you guys want to see the results...
 
   / Now I have really gone and done it #24  
Post the pictures of course.
 
   / Now I have really gone and done it #25  
woodlandfarms said:
$535..... There goes my sprayer. Not sure if I was taken or not on this. The work looks good, 7.5 hrs of labor...

Basically he cut the ears off the jagged piece. Welded it onto a patch. Then welded the patch in. He then put a 3/8" plate behind the whole wall, and then used some sort of special torch to create holes in the back plate so he could then not only weld the edges, but weld the two pieces together to make them stronger.

I also had the other side gusseted as well...

Seems to work... will post pix if you guys want to see the results...
Sixty bucks an hour is well worth it. If, the results last. The longer this repair holds fast, the cheaper the price you just paid to have it done.
 
   / Now I have really gone and done it #26  
7 1/2 hours? And he used a plasma cutter? (fancy torch) The whole job should have been well under 4 hours. I don't see much he would have had to move to get to the backside, so where is all the time? The least he could have done was invited you for the beer in the second half of the day that he charged you for.
 
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#27  
7.5 hrs seemed like a lot to me too. Saddly the owner was out of town... He is a lot more fair. This is one of those moments I think being an outsider cost me.
 
   / Now I have really gone and done it #28  
Sometimes getting the second string is slower and more expensive...

Sounds like a great job though.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Now I have really gone and done it #29  
woodlandfarms said:
7.5 hrs seemed like a lot to me too. Sadly the owner was out of town... He is a lot more fair. This is one of those moments I think being an outsider cost me.

Carl, Did you get an estimate before you left it with the welder. If nothing else, put an upper limit on the job. Do you think if you had hung around and sort of kept-ed an eye on him, would it have done any good. I think he took in more money than he earned.

I had a so called friend rip me off the same way. It was a welding job that I could have done, but could not see inside of the bucket to weld the inside seam. That welding project, cost me more than it would have been to order a new backhoe bucket. I have not been back to even say hello.

That is the kind of lesson about welding that makes one want to practice more to be able to do it your self. It is usually a time thing.

Yep, go ahead and post the pictures of the welding job.
 

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