NX5510H rear remote

[trctorfan17]

Hi,

I heard about the rear remote in our threads but I have no idea what they are or for what purpose. I am looking to buy an NX5510H, do I need the rear remote option in the long run?

What attachments need rear remote?

Thank you very much,

 

[ritcheyvs]

Rear remotes are female (usually) hydraulic quick connectors on the back of the tractor. My DK45 came stock with one set (two connectors) with provisions for adding a second set. Hydraulic flow is controlled by a lever on by your right knee. That lever has a center detent (no flow). Moving the lever in one direction causes flow from the A connector to the B connector and moving it the other way reverses that flow.

Remotes can be used to power a backhoe, post hole digger, log splatter, etc which include hydraulic motors or cylinders. I use mine for a hydraulic top link which is super handy for a box blade (but of little use for a mower). I added a second set of hydraulics and a tilt cylinder cylinder so I could grade at an angle (for runoff) with the box blade. Of course you can always climb down and manually adjust the top and side links but the hydraulics make this very fast and painless.

I recently got a grapple and ran long hoses from the second rear remote to the grapple. A diverter valve (bought but not yet installed) or third function are better (IMO) but the long hoses were a cheap, fast fix to put the grapple to work.

I am not familiar with the NX line but the rear remote kits for the CK and DK series were about $300 per set of remotes. Installation required removing the seat, which was surprisingly heavy and the fasteners were hard to access. The instructions said to remove the left rear wheel but it's possible to do the installation (with contortions) with the wheel in place. But if I were buying a new tractor I'd have the dealer do the work and negotiate a good price as a condition of the sale.

Scott

 

[Coyote machine]

I second what Scott said, except I don't know what a splatter is?!:laughing: I do know what a splitter is though...
And I did a T-N-T Kit, ( top cylinder and tilt cylinder, to replace the manual ones to control 3PH mounted implements) from Brian of Fit Rite Hydraulics, ( an approved advertiser here on TBN, user name: Mtn view ranch), in addition to adding the second set of rear remotes to my DK-40, through my dealer purchase and install. I also got from Brian a diverter valve to allow me to tap into the second set of remotes near the left rear wheel fender support, and run hoses up to the torsion tube crossbar of the FEl. This way the installed with second set of rear remotes NON-detented lever mounts alongside the original first set of remotes lever mentioned by Scott, and I can use it to move my 'top' hydraulic cylinder in or out to control the lift/height on my box blade and similar implements AND:
it allows me to operate my all angle snowplow, log grapple, tree shear and sickle bar, etc. off my joystick conversion of the OEM knob handle FEL lever control. The joystick add allows me to pull a trigger on the stick while moving the stick left or right to open close my grapple jaws, move my plow left to right, etc.

Bottom line, if buying a tractor and thinking of having use of numerous implements, (see my signature for an example of many implements for all sorts of tasks made easier/possible with use a 2 sets of rear remotes, and a diverter valve)....
The ideal time to do it is while purchasing....

 

[trctorfan17]

Thank you very much Scott & Coyote...I am still trying to understand what experts like you wrote.

I am getting an NX kioti with loader and backhoe. I haven't decided on how much horsepower I need (45, 50, 55, 60?)

The brochure says "number of standard standard remote valves (optional)" is 2.

Is this related to the 3 rear remotes?

 

[trctorfan17]

...to be specific, what options do i really have to get added to the NX kioti with loader and backhoe.

I want to be able to use (in addition to loader and backhoe):

- post hole digger
- rear blade
- box blade
- grading scraper
- possible snow blower (not sure, give it is expensive)

thank you very much

 

[Coyote machine]

Thank you very much Scott & Coyote...I am still trying to understand what experts like you wrote.

I am getting an NX kioti with loader and backhoe. I haven't decided on how much horsepower I need (45, 50, 55, 60?)

The brochure says "number of standard standard remote valves (optional)" is 2.

Is this related to the 3 rear remotes?

Each pair of rear remotes, (often referred to incorrectly as a set), consists of two female QDs, (quick disconnects). Each QD accepts a single hydraulic line from say your backhoe, (those fittings would be male fitting end QDs which couples with the female QD on the tractor frame), and the pair of hoses would use one hose for fluid flowing from your tractor's hydraulic reservoir and feed it to the backhoe's hydraulics. The second hose would return fluid to the tractor reservoir in a continuous loop. Hence circuit labels of A and B ports. A second pair of remotes, if you chose to order them with your tractor purchase, would be installed next to the A and B ports and would be marked C and D. From those ports you could run hoses to a Top and Tilt individual cylinders, which would again be connected to the respective ports A,B,C, D and allow you to control the tilt of a box blade or top (center link) of your Box Blade so you could control its angle and such from the operator's seat INSTEAD of having to climb down and manually adjust same.

The diverter valve block I mentioned earlier would allow you to only have 2 pairs of rear remotes, BUT you would also be able to run additional hoses to the front of the tractor to allow for control of an all angle plow, or grapple, or sickle bar, to name a few items you could rig via the diverter. You would then control each pair of remotes receiving hydraulic flow by the levers mounted next to your right leg near the station, (where your feet rest) floor. Additionally, as I think I mentioned before you could install a joystick with trigger switch on the FEL lever to control grapple jaw open/close, plow side to side movement, etc. It can be done with a simple push button switch too, but a joystick trigger switch is much more convenient and cool too.:thumbsup:

Look at it this way; you're not going to be running a brush hog off the PTO on the rear of the tractor while running a snowplow blade off the front. What 2 pairs of remotes does, in conjunction with a diverter valve is give you the most versatility to control various hydraulically operated implements with the greatest of ease at both the rear and front of the tractor. Just not all at the same time.

Regarding your HP choice you should look at what you plan to use the tractor for, and what terrain you have, how many acres and primary uses of the tractor and then get help from the dealer or other tractor owners you may know locally to help you decide what might best suit your needs.

For instance are you going to mainly do FEL work, lifting loads of stone, manure, whatever, or are you going to be cutting trees, hauling logs and wood, or digging things out with your hoe, or all of the above....

...to be specific, what options do i really have to get added to the NX kioti with loader and backhoe.

I want to be able to use (in addition to loader and backhoe):

- post hole digger
- rear blade
- box blade
- grading scraper
- possible snow blower (not sure, give it is expensive)

thank you very much

OK. Sounds like you want to be able to use a huge bunch of stuff. That's fine, but try not to get too ahead of your learning curve. By this I mean, if you're new to tractors you're biting off a steep curve and will have a lot of time spent just getting familiar with what all the implements can and will do in addition to what you and your tractor are capable of.

For instance I now have accumulated since 2009 about 1500 hours total time on the 2 Kiotis I've owned. I self taught 99% of what I know now by school of TBN and hard knocks in the 'field'. I've broken things, bent things and wrecked things in addition to having heaps of fun, close calls, near misses, etc. It's all part of the game, and it's a blast, but one needs to be mindful and have good situational awareness to come home in one piece every day at day's end.

The Loader and hoe will serve you well to begin with. A box blade will do a good job of grading, smoothing and same, on a driveway/roadbed, etc. A FEL mounted plow will IMHO serve most people better and for less money than a snowblower, depending on whether you're talking rear mounted PTO driven or front or mid-mount blower. (not sure which are available for your series tractor, regarding mid-mount or front mount, but that is all easy to figure out what it will accept).

You may find a box blade will allow you to not need it and a rear blade and rear scraper. They are somewhat redundant, but depending on your specific situation, one or possibly two will likely suffice. You can always start with one and then get others as needed, or not.

A post hole digger can be rear mounted, as is usually the case, but I believe you said earlier you want a front mounted one?

I suggest you seek out posts on TBN by Mtnviewranch; he gives compelling logic and reasoning for box blade use or scrapers depending on specifics.

Read some other posts/threads in various subsections, (attachments, etc.) of TBN to get an idea of what people use to do certain tasks.

I know most everything I have learned since 2009 on here is most of my knowledge base about tractors. I try to learn something whenever I'm on TBN, and am seldom disappointed....

 

[hillwood]

You want the rear remote kits. Just like everyone is saying, you will need them, they are inexpensive and easy to install.

 

[hillwood]

I installed my kits myself.

 

[IslandTractor]

Thank you very much Scott & Coyote...I am still trying to understand what experts like you wrote.

I am getting an NX kioti with loader and backhoe. I haven't decided on how much horsepower I need (45, 50, 55, 60?)

The brochure says "number of standard standard remote valves (optional)" is 2.

Is this related to the 3 rear remotes?

Given the list of implements you intend to use, and assuming six foot implements, the only one that could make good use of more than 45hp is the snowblower. Even then if you are clearing less than a foot at a time I'd guess there would be little difference between the 45 and higher hp versions.

I run a DK40se which is essentially the same tractor as the NX with different engine. I use a BH, box blade, 5" chipper, bush hog and flail mower. Never needed more HP than available and I only rarely even run the engine at full PTO rpm.

 

[trctorfan17]

Each pair of rear remotes, (often referred to incorrectly as a set), consists of two female QDs, (quick disconnects). Each QD accepts a single hydraulic line from say your backhoe, (those fittings would be male fitting end QDs which couples with the female QD on the tractor frame), and the pair of hoses would use one hose for fluid flowing from your tractor's hydraulic reservoir and feed it to the backhoe's hydraulics. The second hose would return fluid to the tractor reservoir in a continuous loop. Hence circuit labels of A and B ports. A second pair of remotes, if you chose to order them with your tractor purchase, would be installed next to the A and B ports and would be marked C and D. From those ports you could run hoses to a Top and Tilt individual cylinders, which would again be connected to the respective ports A,B,C, D and allow you to control the tilt of a box blade or top (center link) of your Box Blade so you could control its angle and such from the operator's seat INSTEAD of having to climb down and manually adjust same.

The diverter valve block I mentioned earlier would allow you to only have 2 pairs of rear remotes, BUT you would also be able to run additional hoses to the front of the tractor to allow for control of an all angle plow, or grapple, or sickle bar, to name a few items you could rig via the diverter. You would then control each pair of remotes receiving hydraulic flow by the levers mounted next to your right leg near the station, (where your feet rest) floor. Additionally, as I think I mentioned before you could install a joystick with trigger switch on the FEL lever to control grapple jaw open/close, plow side to side movement, etc. It can be done with a simple push button switch too, but a joystick trigger switch is much more convenient and cool too.:thumbsup:

Look at it this way; you're not going to be running a brush hog off the PTO on the rear of the tractor while running a snowplow blade off the front. What 2 pairs of remotes does, in conjunction with a diverter valve is give you the most versatility to control various hydraulically operated implements with the greatest of ease at both the rear and front of the tractor. Just not all at the same time.

Regarding your HP choice you should look at what you plan to use the tractor for, and what terrain you have, how many acres and primary uses of the tractor and then get help from the dealer or other tractor owners you may know locally to help you decide what might best suit your needs.

For instance are you going to mainly do FEL work, lifting loads of stone, manure, whatever, or are you going to be cutting trees, hauling logs and wood, or digging things out with your hoe, or all of the above....




OK. Sounds like you want to be able to use a huge bunch of stuff. That's fine, but try not to get too ahead of your learning curve. By this I mean, if you're new to tractors you're biting off a steep curve and will have a lot of time spent just getting familiar with what all the implements can and will do in addition to what you and your tractor are capable of.

For instance I now have accumulated since 2009 about 1500 hours total time on the 2 Kiotis I've owned. I self taught 99% of what I know now by school of TBN and hard knocks in the 'field'. I've broken things, bent things and wrecked things in addition to having heaps of fun, close calls, near misses, etc. It's all part of the game, and it's a blast, but one needs to be mindful and have good situational awareness to come home in one piece every day at day's end.

The Loader and hoe will serve you well to begin with. A box blade will do a good job of grading, smoothing and same, on a driveway/roadbed, etc. A FEL mounted plow will IMHO serve most people better and for less money than a snowblower, depending on whether you're talking rear mounted PTO driven or front or mid-mount blower. (not sure which are available for your series tractor, regarding mid-mount or front mount, but that is all easy to figure out what it will accept).

You may find a box blade will allow you to not need it and a rear blade and rear scraper. They are somewhat redundant, but depending on your specific situation, one or possibly two will likely suffice. You can always start with one and then get others as needed, or not.

A post hole digger can be rear mounted, as is usually the case, but I believe you said earlier you want a front mounted one?

I suggest you seek out posts on TBN by Mtnviewranch; he gives compelling logic and reasoning for box blade use or scrapers depending on specifics.

Read some other posts/threads in various subsections, (attachments, etc.) of TBN to get an idea of what people use to do certain tasks.

I know most everything I have learned since 2009 on here is most of my knowledge base about tractors. I try to learn something whenever I'm on TBN, and am seldom disappointed....

Thank you very much Coyote, truly appreciate the details you're providing. I am posting a new thread with more specifics and would love get your input:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ioti-nx-rx-horsepower-needed.html#post4808509

 

[trctorfan17]

thank you very much hillwood, I will get all the rear remote kits I can get.

 

[trctorfan17]

Given the list of implements you intend to use, and assuming six foot implements, the only one that could make good use of more than 45hp is the snowblower. Even then if you are clearing less than a foot at a time I'd guess there would be little difference between the 45 and higher hp versions.

I run a DK40se which is essentially the same tractor as the NX with different engine. I use a BH, box blade, 5" chipper, bush hog and flail mower. Never needed more HP than available and I only rarely even run the engine at full PTO rpm.

thank you very much IslandTractor.

I just added a new thread listing the tasks I have in mind. for box blade, I want to use 84" to speed up the process. Please let me know if, after seeing my list of tasks you still think NX4510 is more than enough:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ioti-nx-rx-horsepower-needed.html#post4808509

Thank you

 

[Coyote machine]

Thank you very much Coyote, truly appreciate the details you're providing. I am posting a new thread with more specifics and would love get your input:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ioti-nx-rx-horsepower-needed.html#post4808509

Cool. You're welcome. It can be confusing sorting all the details, and there is a LOT to learn, but it's manageable if you take your time. I'll check out your other thread too.

 

[trctorfan17]

You want the rear remote kits. Just like everyone is saying, you will need them, they are inexpensive and easy to install.

hi hillwood, since you have NX5010HST, can you please tell the maximum number of rear remotes that I can add (I am already getting a backhoe)? Also, can you add a 3rd function to your machine for FEL?

Is automatic PTO a good option to get?

Thank you