Offset Back Blade Opinions

   / Offset Back Blade Opinions #11  
Just for those looking, any rear blade up to 120" wide that can not swing 360* is on the lower end of the quality scale. A good rear blade setup will have a longer boom to accommodate the wider blade so that the blade is able to be swung 360* while mounted to the tractor 3pt hitch. ;)
 
   / Offset Back Blade Opinions #12  
Considering a 72" offset, tilting back blade for my 30 HP Kioti. Everything Attachments has one that looks interesting. Used for rough drieway, snow, trail maintenance, building etc.

Anyone have one, or one similair. How is it holding up? The idea of articulation at the hitch & the blade will let me get the blade out more, wondering if it will pull the tractor much though?

Ted from Everything Attachments is also a member here.
 
   / Offset Back Blade Opinions #13  
Just for those looking, any rear blade up to 120" wide that can not swing 360* is on the lower end of the quality scale. A good rear blade setup will have a longer boom to accommodate the wider blade so that the blade is able to be swung 360* while mounted to the tractor 3pt hitch. ;)

As MVR notes, absolutely DO NOT buy a blade that cannot swing the full 360*. You will find this to be one of your most important and useful features.

Also, the offset feature is very useful - good to hear it is one you're looking at. The EA blade has done it the right way, enabling it quickly by simply lifting a pin near the 3-pt and swinging the entire assembly left or right, versus the way that some manufacturers require loosening bolts on the back of the blade so the blade may "slide" to one side or the other.

The EA blade looks fairly strong, except where the main parts are bolted/pinned together at the blade, for both the horizontal(rotate) and vertical(tilt) connections. The large bolts, rather than something like several inches in diameter of a pin or hub, seems prone to bending over the long term. You will have this implement for a long time so take your time in looking!

I think you will find the 6' will work just fine, but a 7' may too, but might be a little much depending on what you are moving. The 7' will definitely push your tractor sideways when angled if you have much of a load, but other times will seem like just the ticket, and as others note will cover the tractor width better. However, with the offset feature, the 6'-ter can at least be swung to get all the way out to at least one side completely (and well beyond) which sounds like it will work nice for your trails, etc.

Best of luck and happy shopping!
 
   / Offset Back Blade Opinions #14  
Something that I learned awhile ago, especially when it comes to box blades and rear blades, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE in quality that makes a huge difference with how well the implement performs. If you are going to use an implement very much and to its capabilities constantly, you are waaaaaaaaaay better off to get a top quality one rather than a lesser quality one that you think will get you by.

Just my opinion from what I have learned over the years. ;)
 
   / Offset Back Blade Opinions #15  
I think you would be happiest w 7 footer w tilt, angle, offset ...you should be able to swing it 360 while mounted ...think how awkward it would be to reverse when dismounted...

Consider gauge wheels and/or a simple mount for shoes
 
   / Offset Back Blade Opinions #16  
Not sure I inderstand your logic about a 6 footer being stronger or more sturdy? That's more a function of the duty status of the blade than the width. ie light, med or heavy duty. Mine is a med duty and I've caught the edge on rocks with loaded R1's and spun the tires without bending anything. It's pretty well built. Also remember if your purpose for an offset is to push windrows back further, a longer blade will accomplish this better since it sticks out further, even when not in the offset position.
 
   / Offset Back Blade Opinions #17  
I use my original RB4096 MidWest blade occasionally with my Mahindra 3215HST. The 3215 is right around the same size as your Kioti CK30. A 96" blade is a bit much for this tractor, but I feel that an 84" blade would be perfect for it and hope to get a Land Pride RBT3584 for it someday.

I'm sure that you could get by with a 72" blade, but I feel that you would be much happier with an 84 inch one.

Just my opinion ;)
 
   / Offset Back Blade Opinions #18  
I think you would be happiest w 7 footer w tilt, angle, offset ...you should be able to swing it 360 while mounted ...think how awkward it would be to reverse when dismounted...

Consider gauge wheels and/or a simple mount for shoes

Skid shoes are a good thing also. :thumbsup:
 
   / Offset Back Blade Opinions #19  
I have two 30 hp tractors and both have manual tilt and offset back blades with removeable end caps. This is the Colorado high country and our "dirt" is mostly rock, disintegrated granite (DG) and sand. Darn little real dirt in there. I've worked the ground with these blades on these tractors for 20 years.

The best of the 30 hp tractors is an old JD530 two cylinder. It has a true category II 3pt and swings an 8 foot blade like it was a toy. In spite of the low hp, The 530 is a full size Ag tractor. Definitely not a lightweight. The 8' blade is one I bought used, it was painted industrial yellow, and is branded a "Big Rhino". It must weigh well over 1000 lbs, and is definitely not the same as the modern Rhino brand of the last few decades. I tried one of those but it was too light. This old blade is a much heavier construction with 7/16" thick blade, replaceable edge, Cat. II/III, and lots of big castings and reinforcement. The blade matches the tractor well and this tractor has no trouble pulling it even with the end caps on (box blade mode) and full of dirt.

Then there's the 33hp 4WD Yanmar. I love that tractor, but it wouldn't even be able to lift the JD's 8 foot blade. The blade on the Yanmar is made by Land Pride and is their RB3572. It weights about 500+ lbs and I'd say it is a near perfect match for any 30 to 35 hp compact tractor. Woods makes a similar one called the HBL72. These are cat I/II and have 5/16" blade material with bolt on edges. You need that much strength when working offset. Don't even think about buying a 1/4" thick steel blade in rocky ground. The Yanmar 336 handles the 72" blade OK, but not as easily as the JD530 handles the 96" one.

Some hints: Unless you are ditching where you are just dragging with the offset tip in the ground you will not be able to offset the blade very much without wrenching the tractor out off-line and sideways. BTW, alway DRAG the tip when ditching in tough dirt and let the weight do the work; don't angle it forward unless you are in pure soft ground and maybe not even then.

For simply blading dirt or snow a couple of feet of offset is all you can really use at the best of times. The adjustment gives you 9 choices of offset but you'll rarely use more than half that much.

Both of my blades are full manual adjustment type. Tilt, angle, and offset are all done with pins....I surely do wish they were hydraulic sometimes.... Wouldn't that be sweet!?

As you can see from my comments, I think that you can't have too much weight and strength in an offset back blade.

On the blade tilt: I rarely use the tilt because both tractors have cranks on both their 3pt connecting links and that gives a more precise adjustment and is easier to do. Any blade also pulls better when tilting up by the 3pt than when tilting back at the blade.

I'll bet you find that a 10" tapered pin and a steel rock bar are handy when changing the adjustments. No sense in wrestling these darn implements more than you have to. And on that note, check out the leg or stand, too. Both these blades must have a sturdy and unbreakable stand because you can't lift either one to put them on the tractor. Any time they aren't on the tractor they live on that leg stand and you can expect to have to back up to them where they are standing to hitch them up. And I'll bet you you bump them at least a few times. It's nice if they don't fall down.

New, these are expensive blades. But they do a huge amount of real work. And are particularly good for maintaining dirt roads. There are a lot of really good old used blades out there - don't overlook them. Most most of them will work just as well as a new one if they have the angle, tilt, & offset and cost a quarter as much. JD made a particularly good 3 way blade 50 years ago. So did MF and Ford. You can tell the good ones by the heavy construction plus look for a fairly tall blade with a lot of "roll" in the blade shape. Lots of "roll" costs real money to manufacture but is worth it to you.

Good luck and give me a shout if you have questions. I've got some photos too.
What else? Oh, you might as well spring for the end caps. End caps make it do double duty as a box blade when using both caps, or as a spreading leveler on dirt roads using only one cap on the spill end. You'll see what I mean.
good luck to you, rScotty
 
   / Offset Back Blade Opinions #20  
Just for those looking, any rear blade up to 120" wide that can not swing 360* is on the lower end of the quality scale. A good rear blade setup will have a longer boom to accommodate the wider blade so that the blade is able to be swung 360* while mounted to the tractor 3pt hitch. ;)

Bingo.

I also agree with the posts about quality tools working better. I finally went with a 8' Bush Hog brand box blade for the non compact 265 MF. It weighs about 100 pounds per foot.

What I found was in blades is if you can find a cheap one for $xxx then you need to pay 2x that amount. The MF dealer wanted $1600 for the 96" BH another place had a King Cutter for $800. Last Dec the Case dealer who has wanted to sell me something for a long time had one left and he shot me a price of $1200 and I said YES. He said when he restocked it in the spring that would be his cost but he did move some inventory and gained a new customer.

20 years from now it may bring the purchase price so for quality only $400 more dollars are tied up for that time.

When offset back blades are offset they can see a lot of torque too. Plus it do not like ones that chatter and bounce.
 
 

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