hobbyfarm
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Hey Ken,
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Except for the color, exactly.
phil
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Except for the color, exactly.
phil
offset pull disc
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Takes more than 30 HP to pull this specific disc (fully engaged with the soil) More like 50-60 HP I would guesstimate--Ken Sweet
Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *New and Used Tractors and Implements In Central Kentucky*
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MMM
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Milkman, No, that's correct. Just depends on which view you intend to represent. I like the drawbar, good character. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Troweller, I'd see if I could pull it first. Offsets aren't that easy to get rid of. They go unsold at auction a lot. An 8' went for $390 at last one I attended. Lots of no till these days. Not that many orchards use them anymore since the switch to herbicide weed control under trees.
Troweller, I'd see if I could pull it first. Offsets aren't that easy to get rid of. They go unsold at auction a lot. An 8' went for $390 at last one I attended. Lots of no till these days. Not that many orchards use them anymore since the switch to herbicide weed control under trees.
hobbyfarm
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Offsets aren't that easy to get rid of. They go unsold at auction a lot. An 8' went for $390 at last one I attended. Lots of no till these days. Not that many orchards use them anymore since the switch to herbicide weed control under trees. )</font>
Funny thing, down here in <font color="red">TEXAS</font> there is a good market for them.
As for herbicides under the trees, I (and most people given the choice) don't particularly care for Roundup or Krovar residue in their fruit! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
phil
Funny thing, down here in <font color="red">TEXAS</font> there is a good market for them.
As for herbicides under the trees, I (and most people given the choice) don't particularly care for Roundup or Krovar residue in their fruit! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
phil
MMM
Platinum Member
Not sure about oranges but discing soil destroys feeders which are mostly in top 6" of soil. This stunts tree growth and harms vitality of most fruit trees. One experiment found just mowing was better than discing inside drip line.
Glycophosphate is rendered inactive upon soil contact. Not sure how it would uptake into fruit. Majority of fruit growers are using this method, except maybe the organic guys.
Glycophosphate is rendered inactive upon soil contact. Not sure how it would uptake into fruit. Majority of fruit growers are using this method, except maybe the organic guys.
hobbyfarm
Veteran Member
Hello MMM,
Yes, I know that there is <font color="green">some root pruning</font> when you cultivate inside the drip zone, but this has been shown to stimulate growth (unless you go nuts and cultivate too deeply.) in citrus trees. The main thing to keep in mind is not too often. Tolerate ankle to knee high weed growth as that is a good indication of soil moisture and nutrients.
There have been studies that demostrate to both conclusions that chemical residue ends up in fruit (personally, I beleive that who ever funds the study, can make it say what they want). While I don't go organic completely (I do fertilize twice a year with ammonium sulfate [21-0-0]) I don't use anything else on the fruit. If you like the way the crap from the grocery store tastes, well you are getting the full load of the commercially grown flavor that the pesticides leave. Once in the store, the stores themselves continue to dose the fruit with chemicals to lengthen the shelf life and for cosmetics. If you enjoy the herbicide grown type of fruit, enjoy.
For me, I'll pass and I'll continue to cultivate my fruit thank you.
phil
Yes, I know that there is <font color="green">some root pruning</font> when you cultivate inside the drip zone, but this has been shown to stimulate growth (unless you go nuts and cultivate too deeply.) in citrus trees. The main thing to keep in mind is not too often. Tolerate ankle to knee high weed growth as that is a good indication of soil moisture and nutrients.
There have been studies that demostrate to both conclusions that chemical residue ends up in fruit (personally, I beleive that who ever funds the study, can make it say what they want). While I don't go organic completely (I do fertilize twice a year with ammonium sulfate [21-0-0]) I don't use anything else on the fruit. If you like the way the crap from the grocery store tastes, well you are getting the full load of the commercially grown flavor that the pesticides leave. Once in the store, the stores themselves continue to dose the fruit with chemicals to lengthen the shelf life and for cosmetics. If you enjoy the herbicide grown type of fruit, enjoy.
For me, I'll pass and I'll continue to cultivate my fruit thank you.
phil
MMM
Platinum Member
Apples and oranges. I grow Mayhaws (Crataegus aestivalis), wich are kin to apples. Could be a big difference in feeder depths. I didn't know any fruit tree had a taste for straight N. I am a commercial grower for jelly and wine industry and consume my own jelly, but haven't noticed any taste difference between wild and cultivated fruit. I think most of the grocery store taste is from premature harvesting and cultivars that favor shelf life and bruise resistance over flavor. Good luck with upcoming harvest. (I think oranges ripen soon?)
hobbyfarm
Veteran Member
You know, they aren't pretty yet, but I've been juicing them for about a month so far and even though they haven't hit their prime, they are awesome. They blow away the commercial juice already.
They will be better when we get a good cold snap. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I've sure been getting heavy losses from the possums and various rodents that like fruit. I've even seen a coyote leaving the yard with a fat navel orange in its mouth. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I guess the trick is to grow enough for nature and yourself. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Back on the subject of the offset disk, I kind of think that my proximity to Mexico is one of the big reasons for the market. These guys will buy and export just about anything.
You should see these poeple at an estate auction bidding on guns or tools. They tend to start bidding with their machismo instaed of their brains. Worn, rusty, and old items tend to sell for "like new" prices. Same goes for machinery.
phil
They will be better when we get a good cold snap. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I've sure been getting heavy losses from the possums and various rodents that like fruit. I've even seen a coyote leaving the yard with a fat navel orange in its mouth. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I guess the trick is to grow enough for nature and yourself. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Back on the subject of the offset disk, I kind of think that my proximity to Mexico is one of the big reasons for the market. These guys will buy and export just about anything.
You should see these poeple at an estate auction bidding on guns or tools. They tend to start bidding with their machismo instaed of their brains. Worn, rusty, and old items tend to sell for "like new" prices. Same goes for machinery.
phil
-Thanks for the input on discing.
-I like the offset drag discs because I can turn with them
-I have been using a 6 foot offset drag disc to prepare a garden for winter cover cropping and my tractor,Kubota 3010 4wd, can pull in a low gear and 4wd @2000 rpm.
-I realize that I am working the tractor pretty hard, but field work is not easy on equipment.
-I wonder if I will run into problems in the spring after I plow and try to pull the offset disc across the plow ruts.
-I found some more discs for sale 5.5' for $200
-I like the offset drag discs because I can turn with them
-I have been using a 6 foot offset drag disc to prepare a garden for winter cover cropping and my tractor,Kubota 3010 4wd, can pull in a low gear and 4wd @2000 rpm.
-I realize that I am working the tractor pretty hard, but field work is not easy on equipment.
-I wonder if I will run into problems in the spring after I plow and try to pull the offset disc across the plow ruts.
-I found some more discs for sale 5.5' for $200
