oil change mistake

[Bird]

I think at one time or another, I've used just about every kind of oil filter wrench there is, but the best by far (in my opinion, for my use, of course:laughing is the three legged wrench. Any of the three legged wrenches work better than any other wrench, but I preferred the style sold by J. C. Whitney and many others to the one sold by Amazon. If it collapses the filter, it just get a better bite; never had one fail to do the job easily.

 

[clemsonfor]

It is extremely difficult to get a filter wrench to the base of the filter on my F150. I use motorcraft filters because I like the ribbed design on the end, makes for better grip. I put a wrench to it when putting the new filter on mainly because it is hard to tighten by hand. I snug it about 1/2-3/4 turn.

i always turn on my vehicle 3/4 -1 turn by hand.

 

[timswi]

I think at one time or another, I've used just about every kind of oil filter wrench there is, but the best by far (in my opinion, for my use, of course:laughing is the three legged wrench. Any of the three legged wrenches work better than any other wrench, but I preferred the style sold by J. C. Whitney and many others to the one sold by Amazon. If it collapses the filter, it just get a better bite; never had one fail to do the job easily.

Yep, I have a Snap-On version and it'll take off any filter that I can attach it to. No effort either.

Changed the filter on a Cub Volunteer last week, must have been put on with an impact wrench at the factory and there was barely enough room for a standard strap wrench to take it off...Not fun.

Soundguy, I've owned a few 5.3 GM's along with the wife's former Tahoe. I don't recall the filter removal being all that bad. It was a little messy, but not difficult.

It used maybe 1 quart over 4K miles.

The new 6.2 is very easy. The wife's Hummer isn't bad once I pull off the 3'x3' skid plate

 

[clemsonfor]

The new 6.2 is very easy. The wife's Hummer isn't bad once I pull off the 3'x3' skid plate

If she dosent go off road, why not just leave it in the garage for later. In sure it dosent go offroad much and is already high clearance. You can just reinstall it if you need to later.

 

[deerefan]

The base may be the strongest area, but the top is next strongest; the middle will probably crush the easiest.

Are you using a fluted cap wrench on the top or a strap wrench?

My experience has been that certain vehcles just get very tight, maybe the oil or filter base gets real hot and does something to the gasket material that makes it stick or expand.

My GF had an MG that ran extremely hot under the hood and the filter would always be real tight even if you tightened it the minimum turns on installation. The only way I would get it off was with a 24" pipe wrench and you would pull so hard the engine would be rocking on the motor mounts.

I use a fluted cap wrench. It is the easiest to use in the tight conditions. The filter does not tighten up or give me problems coming loose, it is in a spot that makes it difficult to apply enough tourqe by hand to tighten.

 

[Soundguy]

I think at one time or another, I've used just about every kind of oil filter wrench there is, but the best by far (in my opinion, for my use, of course:laughing is the three legged wrench. Any of the three legged wrenches work better than any other wrench, but I preferred the style sold by J. C. Whitney and many others to the one sold by Amazon. If it collapses the filter, it just get a better bite; never had one fail to do the job easily.

i use a strap wrench myself. it's never failed to remove a filter for me. essentially seatbelt strapping and a hollow suare tube a 1/2" drive socket fits into.

slip the belting down to the base of the filter.. roll the square tube around a bit to take up the slack, then put the socket wrench to it. built in mechanical advantage.. I've wrinkled a few filters in the last 20ys.. but never crushed one.. and never had one fail to let go..

great for place you have no room to work with tong style filter pliers.

soundguy

 

[timswi]

If she dosent go off road, why not just leave it in the garage for later. In sure it dosent go offroad much and is already high clearance. You can just reinstall it if you need to later.

True, but the truck looks kind of naked without it...Can be easily seen from the front.

Gotta keep the wife happy you know.

 

[ModMech]

Every time I have had difficulty removing a spin-on type filter it was from:
1) Stupid gorilla using a WRENCH to install
2) Not lubricating the seal (o-ring)
3) Combination of #1 + #2 and it never did get removed!

Every OEM that I know of says to basically install hand tight + 1/2 to 1 turn with a lubricated seal. I install EVERY FILTER with a lubricated seal and BY HAND and have never ever had even the slightest seepage from one of them. BTW, I have installed thousands and thousands of spin-on filters in my life. Generally, if I installed it, I can also remove it without a wrench.

Definitions:

Stupid Gorilla = person that thinks if 50 lb-ft of Tq per spec is good, 100 lb-ft is "twice as good".

Hand tight = as tight as one can COMFORTABALLY tighten something with their hand only (no rag, gripper etc), about *snug*.

 

[Soundguy]

those same people also hire mountain gorilla's to install drain and check plugs on antique tractors. usually because they are too cheap?, lazy? stupid? to install a new gasket ( 25 cents ) or even make one out of gasket paper and install it and then either glue the plug in with hardening permatex, or tighten it way past thread deformation and rolling seals the connection.. near permanently...