OK....I admit it....I grind my gears.

[RoyJackson]

There's always something like the 870 4x4.

Yep...but 870's and 970's (which have more in common with the newer 990's and 4005s) are hard to find and sell quickly when they come on the market.

If the OP continues to do loader work, and cannot control his impatience...well, there's a number of used 3320's on the market. Some are available with power-reverser which would be a great tranny for loader work. There was one locally (southern York County, PA) I looked at, but since my 790 is paid off, I just didn't want to go back in to debt for the benefit of easier reversing. Anyway, I'm just not in that big a hurry...

 

[foggy1111]

Yep...but 870's and 970's (which have more in common with the newer 990's and 4005s) are hard to find and sell quickly when they come on the market.

If the OP continues to do loader work, and cannot control his impatience...well, there's a number of used 3320's on the market. Some are available with power-reverser which would be a great tranny for loader work. There was one locally (southern York County, PA) I looked at, but since my 790 is paid off, I just didn't want to go back in to debt for the benefit of easier reversing. Anyway, I'm just not in that big a hurry...

Yeah....I keep telling myself "what's the rush"...and "take your time". But...I have this productivity and efficiency streak in me....and I'm always trying to accomplish a little more and a little faster...especilly during loader work. Therefore I am destined to be a gear grinder methinks.

While the 790 has proven to be the right size tractor for me...(I really like the way I can maneuver around and through tight spots in the timber)...I sense that a power reverser or a hydro is in my future.

My tractor and implement size selection has proven to be what I need.....but alas.....I keep looking at hydro models....not that I am ready to pull the trigger.

 

[RoyJackson]

Yeah....I keep telling myself "what's the rush"...and "take your time". But...I have this productivity and efficiency streak in me....and I'm always trying to accomplish a little more and a little faster...especilly during loader work. Therefore I am destined to be a gear grinder methinks.

While the 790 has proven to be the right size tractor for me...(I really like the way I can maneuver around and through tight spots in the timber)...I sense that a power reverser or a hydro is in my future.

My tractor and implement size selection has proven to be what I need.....but alas.....I keep looking at hydro models....not that I am ready to pull the trigger.

Yeah...when you get a $2000 bill for rebuilding the tranny, you'll think about that bolded statement (above).
If you can't slow down, at least change your tranny fluid (shares the same reservoir with the hydraulic system) fairly frequently...a couple times a year at least. Same applies to the filter.

 

[soulasphil]

Buy a Hydro or sync-reverser

That's exactly my experience. After over 10 000 hours of grinding gears on my Massey 35 I got a JD 3520 power reverser and no more grinding. Much more efficient with the FEL too.

 

[estim8rjackie]

My JD 650 grinds every time the first time I put it in gear every time. While in use going forward and reverse no issues. But if I get off for a minute or 2 with it running it does it again.

 

[Industrial Toys]

^^ Probably the synchro stops spinning.

Get a Hydro? Now you just grind your teeth listenting to Hydro Whine.

 

[k0ua]

^^ Probably the synchro stops spinning.

Get a Hydro? Now you just grind your teeth listenting to Hydro Whine.

My hydro tractor doesn't whine unless you do something stupid like try to do loader work in HI range, or it is very cold and the oil doesn't have time to warm up yet. (Kubota SUDT II pretty well solves that too) Not all hydro's whine.

 

[beenthere]

My hydro tractor doesn't whine unless you do something stupid like try to do loader work in HI range, or it is very cold and the oil doesn't have time to warm up yet. (Kubota SUDT II pretty well solves that too) Not all hydro's whine.

My JD 4300 does not whine either. No experience with other tractors, but several GT size that do not whine. I'd suspect something wrong, if they did.

 

[k0ua]

My JD 4300 does not whine either. No experience with other tractors, but several GT size that do not whine. I'd suspect something wrong, if they did.

It has been my experience that the smaller the tractor (think Kubota BX series) the louder the whine. But even my L3400 had a bit more noise than my Kioti. Every Kubota BX I have seen whined pretty bad. Perhaps others owners can chime in with their experience. Louder whine and relief valve opening is usually a sign you are in too tall of a range for the heavy work (like pushing into a pile) that you are trying to do.

 

[stuckmotor]

I can't say what caused the need for a bungee cord on a gear shift or two on tractors I've seen at auction but, suspect gear grinding.