Old Rifle Found

[jimmyj]

Sasquatch is very upset that someone took his gun....

 

[k0ua]

Sasquatch is very upset that someone took his gun....

I suspect he ran after someone with a bag of jerky, forgot where he laid his rifle.:laughing:

 

[jerrybob]

While at the old rifle link I noticed this story: Former cop sues Kentucky hunting store after accidentally shooting off his own finger - The Washington Post

It never fails to amaze me how some people who should know better end up doing things that just shouldn't ever happen.

It's quite lucky one of the four people "down range" from the cop didn't end up getting shot also...

I agree....seems like there were several BIG errors there.......

1) Gun shop allowed a loaded firearm in their display case.
2) Clerk did not check firearm before handing it to customer.
3) Customer....a 30 year law enforcement veteran.....did not follow a basic rule taught everyday in every hunter ed. class......Treat every firearm as if it was loaded.

You are right....lucky somebody was not killed.

 

[k0ua]

I agree....seems like there were several BIG errors there.......

1) Gun shop allowed a loaded firearm in their display case.
2) Clerk did not check firearm before handing it to customer.
3) Customer....a 30 year law enforcement veteran.....did not follow a basic rule taught everyday in every hunter ed. class......Treat every firearm as if it was loaded.

You are right....lucky somebody was not killed.

The final responsibility for control of a firearm is the person in whose hand it is. Unless that person is under age 18.
The plaintiff is a POS for suing the store. That is how I would view it if I was on a jury. The man has no standing. HE IS A POLICE OFFICER. And he does not even have brains enough to handle a firearm safely. IF you do not understand how to handle firearms safely, NEVER PICK ONE UP. Just like the NRA's Eddie Eagle says, "STOP!, DON'T TOUCH! and tell an adult". In this case that is exactly what the police officer should have done.

When you, as an adult pick up a firearm, you take full responsibility for anything that happens with that firearm.

 

[oldpilgrim]

Store: failed to clear gun

Cop: Failed to check to see if cleared despite racking the slide, puts hand over muzzle, pulls trigger even while pointing gun towards other customers.

Then he sues store? He's lucky he didn't kill someone.

 

[k0ua]

Here is the thing, we don't know how the round got in the chamber. We don't know for sure if the gun came from its previous owner with a loaded chamber, or if a customer slipped a round in. Of course as a diligent counter man he/she should have checked the firearm any time taking it back in his/her hand from any customer, and before handing it to any customer. Obviously, at least according to the article, he/she did not. I could not get the video to play, so I could not draw any conclusion from that. How do we know for sure the cop did not slip a round in it himself? Do we really know? I am acting like a defense attorney here and making things up. BUT I really don't know. In any case since he is an adult, he should check the firearm himself, as should anyone he hands it to. Yes, the police officer is very lucky to have just lost a finger. Oh, what was his finger ever doing in front of the muzzle in the first place? Just saying.

 

[jerrybob]

The final responsibility for control of a firearm is the person in whose hand it is. Unless that person is under age 18.
The plaintiff is a POS for suing the store. That is how I would view it if I was on a jury. The man has no standing. HE IS A POLICE OFFICER. And he does not even have brains enough to handle a firearm safely. IF you do not understand how to handle firearms safely, NEVER PICK ONE UP. Just like the NRA's Eddie Eagle says, "STOP!, DON'T TOUCH! and tell an adult". In this case that is exactly what the police officer should have done.

When you, as an adult pick up a firearm, you take full responsibility for anything that happens with that firearm.

I agree......like I said and teach......Treat every gun as if it were loaded.......basic principle of safe gun handling. :thumbsup:

 

[oldpilgrim]

Here is the thing, we don't know how the round got in the chamber. We don't know for sure if the gun came from its previous owner with a loaded chamber, or if a customer slipped a round in. Of course as a diligent counter man he/she should have checked the firearm any time taking it back in his/her hand from any customer, and before handing it to any customer. Obviously, at least according to the article, he/she did not. I could not get the video to play, so I could not draw any conclusion from that. How do we know for sure the cop did not slip a round in it himself? Do we really know? I am acting like a defense attorney here and making things up. BUT I really don't know. In any case since he is an adult, he should check the firearm himself, as should anyone he hands it to. Yes, the police officer is very lucky to have just lost a finger. Oh, what was his finger ever doing in front of the muzzle in the first place? Just saying.

the video answers a lot of your questions.

 

[k0ua]

I agree......like I said and teach......Treat every gun as if it were loaded.......basic principle of safe gun handling. :thumbsup:

Yeah, you are left to wonder about the fingers in front of the muzzle thing. Just when is it a good idea to place part of your body in front of the muzzle of a firearm anyway? Then start yanking on the trigger?:shocked:

 

[k0ua]

the video answers a lot of your questions.

I got it to play this time. Wow. What a careless person. He not only does not check the firearm, he covers several people in the store with the muzzle, covers his own hand repeatedly and continuously, and it looks like he may have "short racked" the slide. I can't tell from the video, for sure, but it looks like it did not fully retract it, and then he decides it would be a good idea to test the trigger with his hand over the muzzle. This officer has no business being in the vicinity of a firearm. I knew they were out there, and this is proof.. Wow.