Old tractor, no ROPS

   / Old tractor, no ROPS #31  
Back in those days most farmers has a quality that lacks now days, they weren't college educated and they had common sense!
 
   / Old tractor, no ROPS #32  
Back in those days most farmers has a quality that lacks now days, they weren't college educated and they had common sense!

That is a two edged sword. Without a sound education in math, physics, English and Biology. It's too expensive , time consuming and dangerous to learn by experience.
 
   / Old tractor, no ROPS #33  
Back in those days most farmers has a quality that lacks now days, they weren't college educated and they had common sense!
I'll have to disagree. What amount of schooling one has has no bearing on how much (or little) common sense one has.

Aaron Z
 
   / Old tractor, no ROPS #34  
I've grown to the conclusion, that the educational systems of the world truly do educate the common sense right out of the average person... As changes are made to the educational system, common sense becomes less and less common in the graduates turned out...

That being said, all the "old time farmers" I know are among some of the smartest people I've ever met. Able to calculate fractions and percentages in their heads when doing measurements, proper understandings of levers and pumps and fluid dynamics and many other math and science related items. They might not have full grasp of grammar and their biology might not go beyond gutting a hog or cow, but they know all they care to know and their brilliance shows in what they know.
 
   / Old tractor, no ROPS #35  
Common sense doesn't help you if don't know or understand what you are dealing with?
If somebody here trying to feel better by stating their common sense is better than going to school? It takes both common sense and knowledge.
Try any skilled trade or profession on common sense alone and see how far you get.
 
   / Old tractor, no ROPS #36  
Common sense doesn't help you if don't know or understand what you are dealing with?
If somebody here trying to feel better by stating their common sense is better than going to school? It takes both common sense and knowledge.
Try any skilled trade or profession on common sense alone and see how far you get.
 
   / Old tractor, no ROPS #37  
The old fellow was probably doing something he had done dozens of times before when it all went wrong.

But there's a lesson for all of us here... those with common sense, those with education and those with both: As we get older, we can't do the same things we did when we were young. The reflexes slow down, the eye-hand coordination slips a little, the strength isn't the same, etc. Believe me, I know from personal experience.

Part of getting older is having enough judgement to find a better way to get things done that doesn't rely on a combination of youthful exuberance and dumb luck. I figure my youthful exuberance is long gone and whatever dumb luck I had got used up a long time ago.
 
   / Old tractor, no ROPS
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#38  
My original note was really indirectly expressing gratitude for how much safer (inherently) new tractors are than their ancestors were. A lot of tractor users today, myself included, didn't grow up around farm machinery and might not have an appreciation of how wrong things can go (and how quickly!). If the safety equipment gives somebody a feeling of invincibility, then there's an accident just waiting to happen. No safety feature is so foolproof it can't be defeated by a sufficiently ingenious fool.
 
   / Old tractor, no ROPS #39  
for a bit of hair raising feeling. look up 'belted equipment'

definately not OSHA rated!
 
   / Old tractor, no ROPS #40  
Go to an antique tractor show and watch the tractor pulls. You'll see how to safely pull a load with a vintage tractor ( or modern tractor)and none of them have a ROPS. The load is always hooked to the drawbar and even if the tractor lifts it's front wheels off the ground it can't go over backwards because the drawbar is below the center line of the rear axle.
 

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