Soundguy
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- RK 55HC,ym1700, NH7610S, Ford 8N, 2N, NAA, 660, 850 x2, 541, 950, 941D, 951, 2000, 3000, 4000, 4600, 5000, 740, IH 'C' 'H', CUB, John Deere 'B', allis 'G', case VAC
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( My thought was that when the newbie owner buys an older machine to save money or whatever... the used dealer or private seller does not always include any of this informatioin ...so....the new onwer goes home 'thinking' he knows how to use it cause he 'drives a car' or has driven a 'garden tractor' etc.. then maybe finds out the 'hard way' the dangers that his particular machine has......It is up to the buyer to find it )</font>
To me.. that falls under 'due care and common sense'. And I would consider it the 'buyers responsibility'. Ever see wording like 'caveat emptor' ( buyer beware) or 'not sold for a specific suitability' .. misuse-voiding waranty clauses.. etc.
Ultimately.. your safety is your responsibility.. baring known hidden defects. Again.. I wouldn't use a piece of equipment untill I knew about it.
When i bought my first hand clutch tractor.. I let the previous owner load/unload it till I was familiar with it, and had read the 'thick' manual.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I am sure they may be training available.. however I do not recall seeing anything 'posted ' at any dealer (new or used) I have visited..it just is not something that is out there being advertised etc..
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I can't speak for all dealers.. but at least the MF and the NH dealer near me will give you the 15-30 minute 'how to' and cover the basic safety points. When I traded in my NH 1920 onmy 7610.. the owner gave me the walkaround and offered test operation at the store. When delivered, the driver gave me another 15-20 minute 'how to' about the basics. I might add they were pretty nice when i called them 2-3 times on the phone after the sale asking questions.. even after I read the manual.
Too many people in this country don't accept personal responsibility for their own wellbeing.. but instead look to others to cast blame.. or otherwise encumber with the responsibility of thier safety.
Just like buying a gun.. know it before you use it.... That's why you have to hand out youth handgun safety notices when you sell a gun. That's why new hunters have to go thru a safety course... That's why you have to take a class to ride an ATV ( in many places)...
I'm not discounting what your saying about newby users not getting paperwork with the sale of a used tractor... Accept from dealer purchases.. I'v yet to get a manual from a previous owner.. yet.. when i sell a tractor.. I DO give them any info I have on the unit.. including past maint logs.. and spare parts I have.. manuals.. and web resources where I have bought parts.. etc. I also believe that is not a typical sales experience though... that said... it is the buyers ( new owner) responsibility to be familiar with the machine and operate it in a safe manner, and to decide what is an acceptable application for use for that equipment.. again.. that's basic life skills. If a person doesn't have the mental facualities to make those decisions correctly.. well.. that's what group assisted living is for....
Soundguy
To me.. that falls under 'due care and common sense'. And I would consider it the 'buyers responsibility'. Ever see wording like 'caveat emptor' ( buyer beware) or 'not sold for a specific suitability' .. misuse-voiding waranty clauses.. etc.
Ultimately.. your safety is your responsibility.. baring known hidden defects. Again.. I wouldn't use a piece of equipment untill I knew about it.
When i bought my first hand clutch tractor.. I let the previous owner load/unload it till I was familiar with it, and had read the 'thick' manual.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I am sure they may be training available.. however I do not recall seeing anything 'posted ' at any dealer (new or used) I have visited..it just is not something that is out there being advertised etc..
)</font>
I can't speak for all dealers.. but at least the MF and the NH dealer near me will give you the 15-30 minute 'how to' and cover the basic safety points. When I traded in my NH 1920 onmy 7610.. the owner gave me the walkaround and offered test operation at the store. When delivered, the driver gave me another 15-20 minute 'how to' about the basics. I might add they were pretty nice when i called them 2-3 times on the phone after the sale asking questions.. even after I read the manual.
Too many people in this country don't accept personal responsibility for their own wellbeing.. but instead look to others to cast blame.. or otherwise encumber with the responsibility of thier safety.
Just like buying a gun.. know it before you use it.... That's why you have to hand out youth handgun safety notices when you sell a gun. That's why new hunters have to go thru a safety course... That's why you have to take a class to ride an ATV ( in many places)...
I'm not discounting what your saying about newby users not getting paperwork with the sale of a used tractor... Accept from dealer purchases.. I'v yet to get a manual from a previous owner.. yet.. when i sell a tractor.. I DO give them any info I have on the unit.. including past maint logs.. and spare parts I have.. manuals.. and web resources where I have bought parts.. etc. I also believe that is not a typical sales experience though... that said... it is the buyers ( new owner) responsibility to be familiar with the machine and operate it in a safe manner, and to decide what is an acceptable application for use for that equipment.. again.. that's basic life skills. If a person doesn't have the mental facualities to make those decisions correctly.. well.. that's what group assisted living is for....
Soundguy
